On this site, RFM and exmormon reddit, I often read mocking, angry, and profanity laden comments about Jesus and I am trying to figure out why He is the target, directly or indirectly?
Help me understand this!
k
Ps: truth in lending- I am a nevermo with TBM family, and a born again Christian with a very thick skin!
Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus?
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Re: Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus
I can only speak for myself, but the times I've seen Jesus mocked it's in my opinion usually mocking the Mormon idea of Jesus more than Jesus himself... or mocking that they claim to speak for Jesus so the memes reflect what Mormonism imposes on the idea of Jesus.
Just my opinion of course, and I know others will have differing opinions.
Just my opinion of course, and I know others will have differing opinions.
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Re: Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus
kairos wrote:I am a... born again Christian with a very thick skin!
Why dey make fun of jebus? He was my fren.
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus
kairos wrote:On this site, RFM and exmormon reddit, I often read mocking, angry, and profanity laden comments about Jesus and I am trying to figure out why He is the target, directly or indirectly?
Help me understand this!
k
Ps: truth in lending- I am a nevermo with TBM family, and a born again Christian with a very thick skin!
Part of it seems to be shaking off the unhealthy religious notions that people associate with Jesus and God in general.
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Re: Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus
The Mormon version of Jesus seems sanctimonious and mean to me. For me to revere him constantly would bring a lot of moral dissonance.
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Re: Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus
kairos wrote:On this site, RFM and exmormon reddit, I often read mocking, angry, and profanity laden comments about Jesus and I am trying to figure out why He is the target, directly or indirectly?
Help me understand this!
k
Ps: truth in lending- I am a nevermo with TBM family, and a born again Christian with a very thick skin!
When ex-mos mock Jesus do you take that as the same Jesus in which you believe?
As PG points out above the Mormon version of God/Jesus is very different from most other Christian beliefs.
When TBMs ask me if I believe in God I usually reply, yes but not the same one you do.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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Re: Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus
When I found out Mormonism was a largely a bunch of baloney, I felt the need to distance myself from anything Mormon related. And Jesus did end up getting filtered out with the bath water. I turned to exmormon sites that often used humor to help fill the Mormon sized hole in my heart.
Mathematical!
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Re: Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus
First of all, what do you consider mockery? Can you provide an example on this site? With the exception of Shulem, I can't think of any here who mock Jesus. But we might not have the same definition of what it means to mock.
The question, generally, is simple to answer. People mock what is sacred to other people or institutions that they don't like. That will explain 99.9% of religious figure mockery that you will ever see. And that is why I don't think we see much mockery of Jesus going on at this board. As this board has historically responded to apologists, there is little incentive to mock Jesus because Jesus isn't central to the beliefs of the apologists. Mocking Jesus will earn feigned protest, but no more, as the apologists show that they are contributing members of a greater religious society, they are signaling --"hey guys, we are one of you!". But they feel nothing. They only feel pain when you either criticize a fellow apologist, or criticize Joseph Smith or key church leaders.
The question, generally, is simple to answer. People mock what is sacred to other people or institutions that they don't like. That will explain 99.9% of religious figure mockery that you will ever see. And that is why I don't think we see much mockery of Jesus going on at this board. As this board has historically responded to apologists, there is little incentive to mock Jesus because Jesus isn't central to the beliefs of the apologists. Mocking Jesus will earn feigned protest, but no more, as the apologists show that they are contributing members of a greater religious society, they are signaling --"hey guys, we are one of you!". But they feel nothing. They only feel pain when you either criticize a fellow apologist, or criticize Joseph Smith or key church leaders.
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LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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Re: Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus
Some folks view religion as oppressive, and they think the best way to take away its power is through mockery. My own experience is that most former Mormons who use mockery direct it toward aspects of the religion that are uniquely Mormon, such as the temple ceremony. Relatively few become atheists of the Dawkins flavor that mock religion in general.
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Re: Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus
Fence Sitter wrote:kairos wrote:On this site, RFM and exmormon reddit, I often read mocking, angry, and profanity laden comments about Jesus and I am trying to figure out why He is the target, directly or indirectly?
Help me understand this!
k
Ps: truth in lending- I am a nevermo with TBM family, and a born again Christian with a very thick skin!
When ex-mos mock Jesus do you take that as the same Jesus in which you believe?
As PG points out above the Mormon version of God/Jesus is very different from most other Christian beliefs.
When TBMs ask me if I believe in God I usually reply, yes but not the same one you do.
Those are very good points- i did not sense the differences or nuances exmormons attribute to the "Mormon" Jesus. I am a trinitarian and my Jesus is not the Mormon Jesus.