Question: Why do exmormons' comments often "mock" Jesus?

[_moksha]

You never find posters at Mormon D&D or Sic et Non mocking Cthulhu or Xenu. They respect the competitors.

[_DoubtingThomas]

Jesus died two thousand years ago and he is resting in peace.

[_Maksutov]

Do you mean like this?

[_Markk]

On this site, RFM and exmormon reddit, I often read mocking, angry, and profanity laden comments about Jesus and I am trying to figure out why He is the target, directly or indirectly?

Help me understand this!

k

Ps: truth in lending- I am a nevermo with TBM family, and a born again Christian with a very thick skin!

My two cents is that "we as Mormons", especially those of us that were born and raised in the church, were so indoctrinated into the story and live style that Joseph and Brigham created, that when we studied and found how wrong and fabricated it was...all "hope" (Faith) was ripped out of our hearts. It hurt, and it hurt deep. If Joseph and the church were false, then everything else is false.

I think it is really complicated with Mormonism in that Jesus/God is not the central figure of the faith. The central figure of Mormonism is "The Church."

Kairos, if you truly want to understand Mormonism from a Evangelical point of view you need to understand that "The Church" is the true God of Mormonism...God, Jesus, prophets, official scripture and teachings, and even moral standards once considered unchangeable can and will change in order to protect the one true God of Mormonism, which is "The Church."

If you have never been LDS, you need to filter out your study of Mormonism through this filter or you will never have a chance to even partly understand how we as Mormons processed our faith.

As a Born Again believer you might understand what I am about to write...

If you were to stop believing, you would no longer believe in Christ, and everything else would fall.

If you are Mormon and were to stop believing, you would no longer believe in "the church," and everything else would fall. So... Jesus, by default, is just one of the many victims in this decision; somewhere between Joseph and Postum.

[_Stem]

I don't think it's an ex Mormon thing. Retired traditional christians take the lead former Mormons follow along. The difference in size of these two groups demonstrates why it is one following the other. Like what a thousand to one?

[_Maksutov]

On this site, RFM and exmormon reddit, I often read mocking, angry, and profanity laden comments about Jesus and I am trying to figure out why He is the target, directly or indirectly?

Help me understand this!

k

Ps: truth in lending- I am a nevermo with TBM family, and a born again Christian with a very thick skin!

My two cents is that "we as Mormons", especially those of us that were born and raised in the church, were so indoctrinated into the story and live style that Joseph and Brigham created, that when we studied and found how wrong and fabricated it was...all "hope" (Faith) was ripped out of our hearts. It hurt, and it hurt deep. If Joseph and the church were false, then everything else is false.

I think it is really complicated with Mormonism in that Jesus/God is not the central figure of the faith. The central figure of Mormonism is "The Church."

Kairos, if you truly want to understand Mormonism from a Evangelical point of view you need to understand that "The Church" is the true God of Mormonism...God, Jesus, prophets, official scripture and teachings, and even moral standards once considered unchangeable can and will change in order to protect the one true God of Mormonism, which is "The Church."

If you have never been LDS, you need to filter out your study of Mormonism through this filter or you will never have a chance to even partly understand how we as Mormons processed our faith.

As a Born Again believer you might understand what I am about to write...

If you were to stop believing, you would no longer believe in Christ, and everything else would fall.

If you are Mormon and were to stop believing, you would no longer believe in "the church," and everything else would fall. So... Jesus, by default, is just one of the many victims in this decision; somewhere between Joseph and Postum.

Good points. Mormons worship their leaders and themselves. Jesus and God get a nod.

[_Dr Exiled]

I have to confess that I love Shulem's the Jesus myth mocking thread. Whether or not Jesus lived, unsupportable myths were created around him and Shulem exposes how silly those christian inventions are. As for the mocking by some, I think it is really an expression of mocking the authority religion created out of whole cloth. Jesus is used as guilt spear by the religious and mocking his myth may be a shield like defense mechanism used to deal with the years of false guilt leaders and parents heaped on their victims.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I think Exiled makes a good point. For me when I see something like Shulem's thread it helps to demystify god-worship realizing that all the threats, all the sky daddy bogeyman stuff, is just nonsense. It's all powerless nonsense, so in a way it deserves mockery because it shows believers just how toothless their gods or god belief is.

- Doc

[_Mormonicious]

Silly question. First of all, Biblical Jesus and Mormon Bastard jebus are not the same.

Biblical Jesus' birth is miraculous therefore qualified as the Lamb without Spot of Blemish

Mormon Bastard jebus is the product of Mormon man god damned Mary, out of wedlock, with Carnal Knowledge and in a physical manner. Hence Mormon Bastard jebus isn't worthy as the Lamb without Spot of Blemish.

Apples and Oranges

STUPID damned Mormons

All Hail Google GOD and her son eBay and the Holy Toaster youtube

[_fetchface]

I can't think of any real reasons to mock Jesus. Seems like a pretty good dude.

However, the concept that many have of the atonement deserves some mocking. Particularly, the idea that humans are awful by nature and can only be fixed by some special divine intervention. I have gotten to know a lot of humans throughout my life and almost all were good by nature and required no special divine help to be good. They were worthy of God's love and acceptance with no atonement. The exception to this would be the psycopathic types who feel no empathy and behave consistently horribly. However, I question how much of this is their fault given that psychologists generally agree that they are incapable of feeling empathy. Would I behave the same if I were incapable of feeling empathy? Possibly so.

You know what God could do for humanity instead of try to convince them they are filthy and impossible to redeem without an unnecessary atonement? God could fix psycopaths so that they can feel empathy. Unfortunately, the atonement did not do that. That would be a real gift to humanity. The atonement's not powerful enough, I guess. Jesus died for nothing, poor guy.

There, I've mocked Jesus' atonement. Why did I do it? Because it makes no sense to me and I kind of resent the fact that I was indoctrinated with this crap since I was a small child to believe something that makes no sense. And I had to fight for the right to use my own brain and was shamed for doing so and that makes me feel angry and snarky. I guess that's why I mock.