Does Isaiah in Book of Mormon prove it is fiction?

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Does Isaiah in Book of Mormon prove it is fiction?

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The Book of Mormon includes a number of chapters from Isaiah and some
of those chapters are word for word from the KJV of the Bible Joseph Smith had-
So why doesn't this evidence debunk the Book of Mormon and prove it is not a historical document? I heard that Nibley explained that Joseph Smith recognized the Isaiah writing on the plates and told Oliver Crowder "hey no need for me to dictate this, grab my Bible and copy Isaiah chapters x to y while I take a nap". Flaky but hey!

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Re: Does Isaiah in Book of Mormon prove it is fiction?

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For Intelligent individuals yes, for crap FOR BRAIN Mormons, NO.

A Believer is going to Believe no matter what reality is.

STUPID damned Mormons

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Re: Does Isaiah in Book of Mormon prove it is fiction?

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Does Isaiah in Book of Mormon prove it is fiction?


No. God is not bound by any category if you don't need Him to be. Why couldn't someone beyond space and time simply borrow a text from the future and send it back to an earlier confidant of His?

I don't see why that is a problem for a believer in such things as, for example, the resurrection of human flesh from nothing or from constituent elements so dispersed that it would be impossible for any non-god to compile them, much less restore them to life.

On the other hand, it is hard for my tiny brain to understand why a being with such tremendous powers would let a mistake slip in to the prophetic literary endeavors of one his more recent confidants.
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Re: Does Isaiah in Book of Mormon prove it is fiction?

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That was a neat find in 2015, professor Symmachus, and yet I wonder why it was never addressed by the apologists I was not able to find an entry on FAIRMormon about the phrase "crying in the wilderness", though I may need to search harder.

Separately, are you aware of an up-to-date repository of known problematic errrors from the KJV which were perpetuated in the Book of Mormon, D&C and PofGP texts?
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Re: Does Isaiah in Book of Mormon prove it is fiction?

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Symmachus wrote:
Does Isaiah in Book of Mormon prove it is fiction?


No. God is not bound by any category if you don't need Him to be. Why couldn't someone beyond space and time simply borrow a text from the future and send it back to an earlier confidant of His?

I don't see why that is a problem for a believer in such things as, for example, the resurrection of human flesh from nothing or from constituent elements so dispersed that it would be impossible for any non-god to compile them, much less restore them to life.

On the other hand, it is hard for my tiny brain to understand why a being with such tremendous powers would let a mistake slip in to the prophetic literary endeavors of one his more recent confidants.


The problem for Mormonism here is the fact that Joseph Smith consistently taught that it was a restoration of the plain and precious things that were lost. Specifically of the things that were lost in the Bible. Sure, God can do what ever He wants, but it seems whenever He had a chance to restore an original meaning to a scripture, he didn't. What we do see consistently is a God who restored the perceived 19th century meaning of a text. I wonder why that is?
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