Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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Quite an interesting development is underway at BYU-Idaho. It seems that, since the state of Idaho has chosen to expand its Medicaid coverage, the LDS school is now demanding that students purchase the school's own, private insurance. A number of students are having to drop out as a consequence. Interestingly (or, perhaps unsurprisingly), neither school administrators nor the Church itself are offering up a full explanation for the move.

Naturally, this has led to speculation:

SL Trib Article wrote:The faith generally encourages its members to obtain government help for which they qualify before asking the church for assistance. Some BYU-Idaho students told The Tribune that staff at the Student Health Center believed the Church Board of Education in Salt Lake City made the decision. Other students and church members have wondered on social media whether BYU-Idaho doesn’t support students using Medicaid coverage because it covers birth control, abortions in extreme cases and some services to assist transgender individuals in transitioning.

The most recent statement from the university is totally bonkers:

After continued pushback from students, the Idaho campus sent out a second email Wednesday, suggesting for the first time that the decision was based on the state’s Medicaid expansion and a concern that students would overwhelm health care providers in the area.

The email said: “Due to the health care needs of the tens of thousands of students enrolled annually on the campus of BYU-Idaho, it would be impractical for the local medical community and infrastructure to support them with only Medicaid coverage.”

The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare disputes that reasoning.

Wow, so what *is* the reason? Just to try to wring additional money out of the students? Or, is it really what people have already speculated: i.e., that the Church is so militantly opposed to birth control, abortion, and transgender issues that it is willing to send hundreds of students packing, because they can't afford the Church's pricy insurance? Very strange, in any case. And very rotten to be doing this right before the holidays.
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Re: Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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Plans at BYU-Idaho are administered by Deseret Mutual Benefit Administrators, established by the LDS Church — cost $536 per semester for an individual or $2,130 for a family. Medicaid, on the other hand, is free or low-cost coverage for low-income people who qualify.

So which one takes precedence? The one run by the mega-conglomerate corporation of course. The bottom line is for all Church Corporation subsidiaries to make a profit. Let those so-called "public universities" bear the burden of so-called "kind-heartedness". That stuff does not maximize revenues.

More on this story of hornswoggling the students with insurance perfidy in the New York Times:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/university-to-students-on-medicaid-buy-private-coverage-or-drop-out/ar-BBXgzFF?

That is a pretty harsh assessment, so I will offer a rebuttal: It is the student's fault for attending BYU-Idaho. Caveat Studentor!

Young married couples should know that the Church insurance has a $4,750 deductible that must be met before it will cover maternity care for the spouse of a student.
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Re: Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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Probably all about the money-first hand we know Utah State married students who qualified for Medicad and began their families under that program as well as it taking care of any other medical situations. Some may feel that the "rich " parents of many of these RM USU students should foot the bill as they probably are for other college costs but this must be decided by the students who do qualify for Medicad because they don't have any real income,outside a 7-11 job, of their own.

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Re: Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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The cheapest option available is the university’s student health plan, which does not comply with the Affordable Care Act’s consumer protections and would require the Langstons to pay a $3,125 annual premium.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-BBXgzFF?

BYU Idaho’s student health plan does not comply with statutory legislation? What happened to...
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ang=eng#p1

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Re: Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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It's about the $, and probably about controlling the students as well. Cojcolds can't have Johnny and Sally walk into an abortion clinic if it can help it.
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Re: Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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What a colossal blunder! They need to eat their own. The captive audience is on the menu. Disgusting.
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Re: Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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After continued pushback from students, the Idaho campus sent out a second email Wednesday, suggesting for the first time that the decision was based on the state’s Medicaid expansion and a concern that students would overwhelm health care providers in the area.

Holy crap! I mean the Church has done some stuff in the past for sure...but this is just ridiculous.
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Re: Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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I have a question wrote:
The cheapest option available is the university’s student health plan, which does not comply with the Affordable Care Act’s consumer protections and would require the Langstons to pay a $3,125 annual premium.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-BBXgzFF?

BYU Idaho’s student health plan does not comply with statutory legislation? What happened to...
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ang=eng#p1

Students at Church Universities, like members of the Church, are simply livestock to be farmed as intensively as possible.


The article mentions that technically it is not noncompliant because of an exception that allows universities to fund their own plans that do not comply with the ACA. Probably a comment about Pharisees is warranted here.
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Re: Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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After continued pushback from students, the Idaho campus sent out a second email Wednesday, suggesting for the first time that the decision was based on the state’s Medicaid expansion and a concern that students would overwhelm health care providers in the area.

So if 10 students walk in for medical care but the provider only has room for 1, then the provider is by definition overwhelmed.

If the 10 intend to pay with Medicaid, then the provider remains overwhelmed like usual, but if the 10 intend to pay with the university's private plan, then the provider magically becomes NOT overwhelmed?
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Re: Why is BYU-Idaho Givng Its Students the Shaft?

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Dr. Shades wrote:
After continued pushback from students, the Idaho campus sent out a second email Wednesday, suggesting for the first time that the decision was based on the state’s Medicaid expansion and a concern that students would overwhelm health care providers in the area.

So if 10 students walk in for medical care but the provider only has room for 1, then the provider is by definition overwhelmed.

If the 10 intend to pay with Medicaid, then the provider remains overwhelmed like usual, but if the 10 intend to pay with the university's private plan, then the provider magically becomes NOT overwhelmed?

I think in this case, feeling overwhelmed is more synonymous with feeling underpaid. As you point out, being overwhelmed with higher paying customers somehow is not a problem.
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