Another Racially Insensitive MLK Day Weekend at "SeN"

[_Dr LOD]

Even Jason should be able to figure this out, should he not? Both MLK and I wrote our PhD dissertations on a similar part of Paul Tillich's political and publishing career. He wrote a book that was critical of Hitler's National Socialism, while he advanced his own so-called Religious Socialism, which was all talk, since he became very wealthy, and also, by any Christian standard, also very immoral.

I seriously doubt his ability to even recognize Christian standards.

[_Doctor Scratch]

See here for 2013 and see here for the sequel in 2014. (Perhaps there should be a "Top Ten Mopologetic Screwups on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day" list?)

Those links no longer bring up the racist remarks of the past. Over time, even these vestiges will be scabbed over - hopefully.

Yeah, I wonder if that's by design? Do you think that Dr. Peterson has deliberately tried to "bury" those old posts?

[_moksha]

Yeah, I wonder if that's by design? Do you think that Dr. Peterson has deliberately tried to "bury" those old posts?

I am trying to understand why Dr. King is an annual target. Of course, it's not like I ever get stuck on ideas.

[_Dr Exiled]

Yeah, I wonder if that's by design? Do you think that Dr. Peterson has deliberately tried to "bury" those old posts?

I am trying to understand why Dr. King is an annual target. Of course, it's not like I ever get stuck on ideas.

I think Dr. King is an annual reminder of how the church that must be defended at all costs was so obviously behind the rest of society and this must drive our brothers wild. The world can see it plainly. The ban should never have happened in God's church but it certainly should have ended earlier than the civil rights legislation of the 60's and even earlier than Brown v. Board of Ed, that is if God is behind cojcolds. Yet, it happened only after boycotts of BYU's football team and years of embarrassment. Further still the Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham still have their racist doctrines and these must be defended somehow. Hence, the annual melt down.

[_candygal]

Wow. Mr. Peterson not only doubles down, but ramps up the rhetoric:

Daniel plagiarizin’ Peterson > rockyrd
2 hours ago

Sigh. Apparently, my mention of the (undisputed) fact that Dr. King was seriously flawed has aroused inflamed indignation in the usual place.

So I take it back.

He was flawless.

Or rather he ramps up the snarky asshole, for sure. What is the deal with these guys?

- Doc

I am not understanding how Dr. Petersen can walk anything back that he writes or teaches!

[_huckelberry]

Also, if anyone wants to read the Midge's doctoral dissertation you can find it here:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/444800?rea ... b_contents

It's a bit of a slog because it's amateurish, and Tillich borrows heavily from Sartre (if you don't like Sartre you won't like to read the Midge's liberal quoting of Tillich as a space filler). Imma go outside and smoke a cigar and think about whether or not I want to check the Midge's dissertation for plagiarism. I don't have a good feeling about what I'll find if I do, so I'm a bit conflicted.

- Doc

Doc, I find one has to register to get access to this bit of writing and I am unsure that I would want to read the paper. I do have a bit of a question about it for you. Many years ago I went on a spell of interest in Tillich reading a number of his books. I did not find one needed involvement with Sartre for that though there may be some overlap of consideration on a few occasions.

A very simple summary is Tillich thinks outside of assumptions of religious authority. He is also suspicious to critical of overreaching political authority. I could imagine an LDS reader having thoughts about the loss of character and truth such a thing could lead to. (cliché fundamentalist reaction)

In a very general way existential thought sets aside assumptions of preexisting divine order in societies. Authority systems and social hierarchy are not seen as divinely based so people should decide how to proceed.

There are ways in which Mormon thinking supports the ideas of divine hierarchy and social hierarchy being merit based before God. I have heard it taught advantages of birth were proper and God ordained. In fact I remember Martin Luther King being criticized because he was going against that order by lacking patience and respects. Negros were to wait until they had earned the right for civil rights not just demanding it. I do not remember the sources but such statements occurred in the 60s. Mr Benson perhaps.

So does this review of Tillich fall into the knee jerk , I smell creeping communism of Bircher Mormonism?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Huck,

Registration is free, as is access to the Midge’s magnum copus.

Honestly, I’m not sure if the Midge’s early forays into the philosophy of ‘scientism’ is based on Bircherism, but boy does the timing ever line up nicely, no?

I do think that Tillich, in the vein of Christian tradition, simply picks whatever pop culture hotness is occurring at the time, and then tries to adopt it to Jesus worship. Much like Stryper ripping off 80’s buttrock’s Motley Crue, Tillich, from what I can see, just adapted existentialism and put a Christian veneer on it. I guess if I had to offer another example, the Midge saw Nibley and basically became the Stryper of apologetics. If Bircherism factored into the Midge ripping off Nibley, I really couldn’t say.

- Doc

[_Physics Guy]

Also, if anyone wants to read the Midge's doctoral dissertation you can find it here:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/444800?rea ... b_contents

That link doesn’t seem to be the dissertation, just a 20-page essay that Midgley published in a journal. It has some relation to the dissertation but I don’t think you can get a PhD for just twenty pages.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I should note that the Stryper of apologetics is now on Day 3 of crapping all over MLK’s legacy:

Louis “totally not a supremacist” Midgley > John Pack Lambert 3 hours ago

The fact is that I have been interested in understanding why MLK obvious search for powerful rhetorical language to use in furthering his cause, did not seem to bother with proper academic attribution. Given that he was a preacher, rather than an academic pedant, I now simply dismiss his quirks.

One should also note his terrible grammar, since, you know, he likes to point out others’ occasional misstep.

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

I should note that the Stryper of apologetics is now on Day 3 of crapping all over MLK’s legacy:

Louis “totally not a supremacist” Midgley > John Pack Lambert 3 hours ago

The fact is that I have been interested in understanding why MLK obvious search for powerful rhetorical language to use in furthering his cause, did not seem to bother with proper academic attribution. Given that he was a preacher, rather than an academic pedant, I now simply dismiss his quirks.

One should also note his terrible grammar, since, you know, he likes to point out others’ occasional misstep.

- Doc

I think he is (very badly) trying to walk back his noticing of the plagiarism, on a blog where the proprietor has a well-deserved reputation for plagiarizing with great regularity.