Apologetics in Salt Lake Tribune

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I really hope this goofball theory gains some traction. It will sift the intelligence out of the church.

I had an apologist try to explain this face to face one time. He really is a nice guy. But wow what a tone deaf theory.
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As bizarre and stupid as the dark clothing apologetics is, the fact that the Salt Lake Tribune would publish it is what surprised me most. Sure, its an opinion piece, but this has the smell of FairMormon about it.

Has this type of apologetics appeared in the Tribune before? Maybe it has and I've missed it. Has there been a recent ownership change?
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The commenters in the Tribune did not let this apologetic slip without notice.
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Simon Southerton wrote:As bizarre and stupid as the dark clothing apologetics is, the fact that the Salt Lake Tribune would publish it is what surprised me most. Sure, its an opinion piece, but this has the smell of FairMormon about it.

Has this type of apologetics appeared in the Tribune before? Maybe it has and I've missed it. Has there been a recent ownership change?


The one quoted below from the DesNews had a similar tone but was about Joseph Smith, with an equally silly premise. Here is the OP from the thread discussing it:
Lemmie wrote:From a DesNews column, entitled ‘In this life we see through a glass darkly’ — using historical context to understand church history, Bible,

By Kristine Frederickson, Columnist Sep 26, 2019, 6:08am MDT


He had a seer stone. Many people did in his day. Today we think it weird. However, we read our horoscopes, have our palms read and take advice from telephone psychics, TV talk show hosts and Hollywood stars — whose lives are often a mess.

https://www.deseret.com/2019/9/26/20880 ... ass-darkly

No, WE don’t. Is this editorialist suggesting we should accept Smith’s behavior, by acknowledging that it is no different than current nonsensical beliefs?

I stopped reading at that point. Good grief. Horoscopes? Palms read?
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Shulem wrote:
fetchface wrote:Yeah, me neither. If God uses dark clothing to make people not "enticing," he's an idiot and lacks basic understanding of, well, anything really.


The Book of Mormon teaches that women dressed in black are not enticing? What kind of paddy-cake, taffy-pulled nonsense is that?

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Come on...... this just HAS to be a spoof doesn't it? In the Salt Lake Tribune??? This has to be an Onion piece... I truly CANNOT fathom this being serious.

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I just read it. The Lord hath delivered Mormonism into our hands.
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Philo Sofee wrote:Come on...... this just HAS to be a spoof doesn't it? In the Salt Lake Tribune??? This has to be an Onion piece... I truly CANNOT fathom this being serious.

Edit:
I just read it. The Lord hath delivered Mormonism into our hands.


Didn't one of the true believing Huntsmans purchase the paper? Perhaps we are seeing some soft church pressure to put apologetics into a paper that traditionally was the anti paper?
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Philo Sofee wrote:Come on...... this just HAS to be a spoof doesn't it? In the Salt Lake Tribune??? This has to be an Onion piece... I truly CANNOT fathom this being serious.

Edit:
I just read it. The Lord hath delivered Mormonism into our hands.


Didn't one of the true believing Huntsmans purchase the paper? Perhaps we are seeing some soft church pressure to put apologetics into a paper that traditionally was the anti paper?


That is the singular best weapon the church has given us is this kind of apologetic, especially in a so-called "Anti-Mormon newspaper." By this method I am entirely justified in believing that Jesus Christ in the Book of Mormon is actually Buddha. Since translated words by the Gift and Power of God no longer mean their simple meaning, then baptism can truly mean meditation instead. The sacrament prayers are intonations for Lucifer, just in a special code. I Nephi having been born of Gay parents is entirely plausible. Alma 32 is not about prayer, it is about continually about non stop intoning the sacred sound AUM while sitting in a lotus position. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is really Vedanta after all. Mormon is really a symbolic person filling in for Julius Caesar. There can truly be literally no end to the utter insanity. Everything becomes everything ELSE, and everyone becomes whoever one wants that person to be. And the Book of Mormon being the most correct book actually means "inspired fiction novel."
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Philo Sofee wrote:That is the singular best weapon the church has given us is this kind of apologetic, especially in a so-called "Anti-Mormon newspaper." By this method I am entirely justified in believing that Jesus Christ in the Book of Mormon is actually Buddha. Since translated words by the Gift and Power of God no longer mean their simple meaning, then baptism can truly mean meditation instead. The sacrament prayers are intonations for Lucifer, just in a special code. I Nephi having been born of Gay parents is entirely plausible. Alma 32 is not about prayer, it is about continually about non stop intoning the sacred sound AUM while sitting in a lotus position. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is really Vedanta after all. Mormon is really a symbolic person filling in for Julius Caesar. There can truly be literally no end to the utter insanity. Everything becomes everything ELSE, and everyone becomes whoever one wants that person to be. And the Book of Mormon being the most correct book actually means "inspired fiction novel."


It is Mormonism we are talking about, right? Outside pressure makes for some very stupid, not thought through responses from apologists.
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