COVID-19 reactions and LDS ?????prophetic????? evolution

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Re: COVID-19 reactions and LDS “prophetic” evolution

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Indeed. The fruits of revelation are often more easily seen in hindsight. It is no surprise to those who believe in prophets that more than a year ago President Russell M. Nelson, with 14 others ordained as prophets, seers and revelators, introduced a home-centered, Church-supported curriculum and admonished us to be more intentional about studying and teaching the gospel in our homes.

It is no surprise that two years ago they introduced ministering and asked us to learn to care for each other in a higher, holier way.


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Sylvia Browne, in her book - End of Days: Predictions and Prophecies About the End of the World, apparently predicted the outbreak.

“In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread throughout the globe, attacking the lungs and the bronchial tubes and resisting all known treatments. Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again 10 years later, and then disappear completely,” the book reads.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trend ... 29411.html

Perhaps Nelson read her book...
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Look back just 2 months to Jan 31, when COVID-19 had reached just 6,000 infections globally (mostly in China). On that day, Russell M. Nelson authorized the church flying a shipment of 79 pallets of medical supplies to China, under the banner of a press release touting his decades long relationship with the Chinese, "our dear brothers and sisters."

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/chu ... a?lang=eng

...So with the rising concern of the respiratory illness coronavirus in China capturing headlines around the world, the Church President reached out to his friends in the Asian nation with a heartfelt inquiry: How can we help?

Chinese officials responded with a request for the Church to provide protective equipment to help stem the spread of the disease


The quote above shows us that Nelson asked "How can we help?" But who did Nelson ask? The wording suggests that he asked Chinese officials, not the Lord.

And that's a big problem for the claim that somehow Nelson "knew" something big was headed our way.

In fact, everything about this press release, at press time, tells us that:

* Nelson believed that this would be a short-lived Chinese public health crisis

* This was a political transaction, not an inspired one, and arguably not even a real humanitarian one: else, where were the pallet shipments to other countries in their moment of greatest need?

* Nelson was seizing on the moment to take a low-cost, opportunistic platform to declare a gospel message to China.

Look, we all know that China is closed to missionaries, and to all gathering-based religions in general. But in hindsight, Nelson clearly had no more insight about the development of COVID-19 than Donald Trump, and took it less seriously than bell ringers like Harvard Epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch.

Nelson, oblivious to the risks ahead, used the early days of what would become an epic global pandemic crisis to selfishly attempt to crack the door for future missionary work in China. He didn't use this time to liquidate a portion of Ensign Peak in readiness to offer genuine humanitarian aid. Another "rainy day" missed.

By the way, with the acceleration in risk asset sales, markets have been horribly illiquid and the church would be very hard pressed to efficiently raise cash by exiting its holdings. This is the time for smart and long-term money to be buying, not selling.
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Adding insult to injury, he is probably the nations number one violator of the request from medical authorities to the public not to buy surgical masks, since there will be a huge shortage of them. Rusty gets a revelation to give 220,000 of them away. Oh, and he's a medical professional himself.
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* Nelson believed that this would be a short-lived Chinese public health crisis

Well he missed on that one, but somehow got it right with the home based instruction?

By late January it was of concern for most of the US medical community. I cancelled a early summer vacation in Europe because of my concerns at that time.
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Yet another testimony to those who wish to know reality. President Nelson is ordinary. He was a smart surgeon, but just as normal as the rest of us in everything else. He has no special insight other than 90 plus years of experience and the aid of advisors around him. His supposed "revelations" are duds.
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Many of my non Mormon friends have told me how amazed they are that Mormons already have a church sponsored curriculum that they can follow in their homes during these times of widespread quarantine. I tell them that you’d expect this type of prescient planning when God, who can see the beginning to the end, talks to his prophets.

I think its safe to assume that very soon we will get the following reveal from Mormon leaders: you see, a couple of years ago during a quarterly PEC meeting with the brethren God revealed that it would be a good idea to whip up a vaccine to coronavirus. God explained that even though the vaccine not a great money maker, it would be a fantastic missionary tool in the future. Also God told Mormon leaders to stock up on coronavirus tests because that would come in handy too.
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