Members push back & WIN! on proposed temple development

[_mentalgymnast]

Can you find a quote from a Church Leader where they state that God is too busy to get involved with the First Presidency on projects? What about one where the members are told not to bother God with details or small stuff?

I don’t doubt that God told the First Presidency to build a temple in the Toole area. What I would question, however, is whether or not God micromanages everything thereafter. I mean, the church employees and managers are getting paid for doing what they do and have responsibility and stewardship for making important decisions. I would suggest that as they are making business decisions they are left to their own to do so without having to send everything up the food chain.

Whether or not the First Presidency was even involved in the decision to accommodate the wishes of the local residents after they complained is questionable in my mind.

When members petition God for blessings in regards to the ‘small’ stuff I believe answers can be given through a network of folks from the other side of the veil. Which answers and blessings God is directly involved with personally I don’t think we can know one way or the other.

But it really doesn’t matter. I would hazard a guess that God’s administrative staff is pretty large.

Do you really think, on the assumption that there is a creator God, that He does all the lifting? Heavy lifting...very possibly. But the light/repetitive stuff? Not as likely.

Regards,
MG

[_Morley]

When members petition God for blessings in regards to the ‘small’ stuff I believe answers can be given through a network of folks from the other side of the veil. Which answers and blessings God is directly involved with personally I don’t think we can know one way or the other.

Thank you for sharing your theory about how the whole Creator God prayer thing works.

So, how does he keep airplanes from falling to the ground?

[_mentalgymnast]

When members petition God for blessings in regards to the ‘small’ stuff I believe answers can be given through a network of folks from the other side of the veil. Which answers and blessings God is directly involved with personally I don’t think we can know one way or the other.

Thank you for sharing your theory about how the whole Creator God prayer thing works.

How does he keep airplanes from falling to the ground?

Bernoulli's principle. And great engineering by aeronautical engineers. Oh, and trained pilots.

Regards,
MG

[_Morley]

Thank you for sharing your theory about how the whole Creator God prayer thing works.

How does he keep airplanes from falling to the ground?

Bernoulli's principle. And great engineering by aeronautical engineers. Oh, and trained pilots.

Given your network-of-dead-relatives-finding-keys-‘cause-God-can’t-be-bothered theory, I admit that I’m surprised.

[_mentalgymnast]

Bernoulli's principle. And great engineering by aeronautical engineers. Oh, and trained pilots.

Given your network-of-dead-relatives-finding-keys-‘cause-God-can’t-be-bothered theory, I admit that I’m surprised.

Why?

Regards,
MG

[_Morley]

Given your network-of-dead-relatives-finding-keys-‘cause-God-can’t-be-bothered theory, I admit that I’m surprised.

Why?

Oh, I thought our ancestors would be flying along, holding up the wings. All in answer to our muttered prayers.

[_I have a question]

Can you find a quote from a Church Leader where they state that God is too busy to get involved with the First Presidency on projects? What about one where the members are told not to bother God with details or small stuff?

I don’t doubt that God told the First Presidency to build a temple in the Toole area. What I would question, however, is whether or not God micromanages everything thereafter. I mean, the church employees and managers are getting paid for doing what they do and have responsibility and stewardship for making important decisions. I would suggest that as they are making business decisions they are left to their own to do so without having to send everything up the food chain.

Whether or not the First Presidency was even involved in the decision to accommodate the wishes of the local residents after they complained is questionable in my mind.

When members petition God for blessings in regards to the ‘small’ stuff I believe answers can be given through a network of folks from the other side of the veil. Which answers and blessings God is directly involved with personally I don’t think we can know one way or the other.

But it really doesn’t matter. I would hazard a guess that God’s administrative staff is pretty large.

Do you really think, on the assumption that there is a creator God, that He does all the lifting? Heavy lifting...very possibly. But the light/repetitive stuff? Not as likely.

Regards,
MG

As I've shown with quotes, according to your Church Leaders your God is involved in all the light repetitive stuff, for everyone, all the time. Are you disagreeing with them? And I repeat my request: Can you find a quote from a Church Leader where they state that God is too busy to get involved with the First Presidency on projects? What about one where the members are told not to bother God with details or small stuff?

[_mentalgymnast]

I don’t doubt that God told the First Presidency to build a temple in the Toole area. What I would question, however, is whether or not God micromanages everything thereafter. I mean, the church employees and managers are getting paid for doing what they do and have responsibility and stewardship for making important decisions. I would suggest that as they are making business decisions they are left to their own to do so without having to send everything up the food chain.

Whether or not the First Presidency was even involved in the decision to accommodate the wishes of the local residents after they complained is questionable in my mind.

When members petition God for blessings in regards to the ‘small’ stuff I believe answers can be given through a network of folks from the other side of the veil. Which answers and blessings God is directly involved with personally I don’t think we can know one way or the other.

But it really doesn’t matter. I would hazard a guess that God’s administrative staff is pretty large.

Do you really think, on the assumption that there is a creator God, that He does all the lifting? Heavy lifting...very possibly. But the light/repetitive stuff? Not as likely.

Regards,
MG

As I've shown with quotes, according to your Church Leaders your God is involved in all the light repetitive stuff, for everyone, all the time. Are you disagreeing with them? And I repeat my request: Can you find a quote from a Church Leader where they state that God is too busy to get involved with the First Presidency on projects? What about one where the members are told not to bother God with details or small stuff?

Do you absolutely have to have a quote for anything that you have a problem with? Can you not do any thinking on your own? As you can see, I can. And often do.

Regards,
MG

[_Philo Sofee]

MG
Can you not do any thinking on your own? As you can see, I can. And often do.

You haven't had an original though outside of Mormonism's thinking for years. Who do you think you are kidding? Yours is a warm pudding of regurgitated Mormonism, not your own original thinking. If it ain't in and aligned with Mormonism, you wouldn't know it.

[_mentalgymnast]

MG
Can you not do any thinking on your own? As you can see, I can. And often do.

You haven't had an original though outside of Mormonism's thinking for years. Who do you think you are kidding? Yours is a warm pudding of regurgitated Mormonism, not your own original thinking. If it ain't in and aligned with Mormonism, you wouldn't know it.

You are literally exhausting to read. Same ol’ nothing burgers tossed out indiscriminately. All I see you do is come in here and name a bunch of books that you’ve read as though that makes your opinion more valuable. I have not seen evidence that you do your own thinking. You more often than not simply pilfer the ideas of others and make them your own. But they’re not.

Sigh. Such an expert you are. Enjoyed your Book of Abraham DVD’s though. Expert back then?

Regards,
MG