Uh-Oh! RFM Called to the Carpet - LIAR! Logic decimating video!

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What about Kwaku's claim that the best answer to LDS critics is increased Mormon insolence and not reasoned apologetics? Is he right that Mormon insolence causes critics to fall apart?
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:09 am
He doesn't realize how his 40 year old man-child "bro" look clashes with Mormonism.

"Just follow the prophet bruh! Nothing gets Gen-Z'ers more lit than watching General Conference!"

They embarrassed apologetics with TITS and they just won't stop. More power to them, they're DCP's problem :lol:
Yeah, I know I shouldn't let them get to me, but these clowns are just such an embarrassment. The Mormons are my people, even if I am no longer LDS. The fact that these big babies are dumbing down the discourse with their cheap stunts and pettiness is just plain humiliating for everyone involved.
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In the past 12 months, we've witnessed the projection of Mopologetics onto two spaces.

1) Comedy. Result = TITS videos, which were taken offline within weeks. Other offensively moronic material, likely destined for the same outcome.

2) Statistics. Result = Team Bayes garbage math porn. Not taken seriously by anyone in the academic community.

Each of these forays only bolsters critical arguments by offering clearer boundaries with which to point out fundamental process flaws and logical fallacies.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:02 pm
Yeah, I know I shouldn't let them get to me, but these clowns are just such an embarrassment. The Mormons are my people, even if I am no longer LDS. The fact that these big babies are dumbing down the discourse with their cheap stunts and pettiness is just plain humiliating for everyone involved.
Usually apologist stuff is just like water off a duck's back, but this latest one pushed some of my buttons and I started feeling anger and hate. It reminds me so much of the playground at school. I feel I would be insulting the youth of the world everywhere if I were to label this lot as juvenile. Doesn't even get close.

I have spent the last 24 hours trying to analyse why this video in particular has struck such a negative chord with me, because objectively, it's the biggest bucket of crap they've churned out yet. It's batman crazy faeces. I started doubting my sanity when they were so serious about RFM said X and went on to call people up... and I have having a crisis as to what had I misunderstood and had to watch multiple times.

The video is so mean spirited, maybe that's what is winding me up? Can anyone help me out as to why this video is annoying so much more than the T.I.T.S or other crap they churn out?
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If this is where they have to go to prove me a liar, I feel like I’m on pretty safe ground.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:45 pm
1) Comedy. Result = TITS videos
That is the end result. I can't help but think it every single time. What's wrong with me?

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pistolero wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:54 pm
Usually apologist stuff is just like water off a duck's back, but this latest one pushed some of my buttons and I started feeling anger and hate. It reminds me so much of the playground at school. I feel I would be insulting the youth of the world everywhere if I were to label this lot as juvenile. Doesn't even get close.

I have spent the last 24 hours trying to analyse why this video in particular has struck such a negative chord with me, because objectively, it's the biggest bucket of crap they've churned out yet. It's batman crazy faeces. I started doubting my sanity when they were so serious about RFM said X and went on to call people up... and I have having a crisis as to what had I misunderstood and had to watch multiple times.

The video is so mean spirited, maybe that's what is winding me up? Can anyone help me out as to why this video is annoying so much more than the T.I.T.S or other crap they churn out?

It may be that people transparently lying to you with a straight face as though you were an idiot (when you clearly are not) is insulting?
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consiglieri wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:35 pm
If this is where they have to go to prove me a liar, I feel like I’m on pretty safe ground.
Yes, the people who really are in trouble here do not know they are in trouble. They are the poor folks whom these guys disrespect by treating them like idiots and filling their lives with misleading nonsense that dulls their critical faculties. You know, members of the LDS Church.
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Moksha wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:14 am
What about Kwaku's claim that the best answer to LDS critics is increased Mormon insolence and not reasoned apologetics? Is he right that Mormon insolence causes critics to fall apart?
I think you have something here. If the evidence is not on your side, and the law is not on your side, pound on the table. In this case, punish anyone who gives you the kind of attention and scrutiny you do not want.

DCP was a master of a different version of this: kill the conversation if its logic leads to the wrong place.
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I thought Kwaku acquitted himself reasonably well when he appeared on Mormonism Live last spring.

But this latest series from Midnight Mormons indicates they feel Kwaku did not fare so well and so a hyper-critical response is required.

It is strange that in return for hosting Kwaku and treating him with courtesy and respect, their response is to call me a liar with blood on my hands.

I guess it’s hard to please some people.
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