IHAQ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:16 pm
Did you even read my post?
Absolutely. You've said:
IHAQ wrote:Well we now know that’s not strictly true. In fact, it’s a lie. “Some” have been given special dispensation to carry on earning rather than working full time for the Church.
IHAQ wrote:I think the bigger question now, is what else has been hidden from members with regards to the earnings of the people who were supposed to be full time servants of Christ…
IHAQ wrote:Gary E. $tevenson is proof positive that Apostles aren’t these humble men, sacrificing worldly wealth so they can serve full time.
IHAQ wrote:Will Gary be selling his shares and donating all the proceeds to LDS Charities as Holland and Jesus suggest?
IHAQ wrote:Eric clearly wasn’t telling the whole truth when he said “General authorities leave their careers…” and “they focus all of their time on serving the church…”. They may leave full time employment behind, but Billionaire Gary shows us they don’t leave behind the trappings and earnings and their positions on boards etc.
IHAQ wrote:I willing to speculate that he made retaining his source of income a condition of his accepting the calling.
IHAQ wrote:The issue is that the Church promotes the idea to its members that Apostles are called full time and give up their worldly remuneration in return for a lifetime of service, and that once again the Church has been wilfully misleading members.
IHAQ wrote:Clearly they don’t give up their livelihoods.
All of which, if I read correctly, suggests that you take umbrage with the idea that Gary has continued to receive "earnings" or "remuneration" for his board service while he was an apostle. I don't think that is correct. (CORRECTION: I was wrong. The S1 clearly lays out how Gary was compensated for board service, and with a near $1M in loan forgiveness, and other compesnation, totaling well over $1 million for 2021. Shame... I was under the understanding that apostles were specifically -- and to a degree, legally -- proscribed from for-profit commercial enterprise activity during their full-time service.)
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Now to my question, about asking apostles to hand over all property before serving, which would have included all of Gary's 15% holdings in iFIT. I asked because in 2 of the posts above, you suggested exactly this, but that he should do so voluntarily. That seems unreasonable, but then again, I would actually prefer an argument that the church has set the goalposts in the wrong place. In other words, that all apostles, since they're paid a living allowance, should first SHOW FAITH by giving all their worldly possessions to the Church of Jesus Christ.
Because whether it's this situation, or others involving wealth, the church does not dissuade its membership from weighing money as a sign of divine favor. And that's a problem.