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Well, the lady in the middle looks a little unsure to me. Her semi-smile could be fake.
- I'm just performing a public service by providing a stupid answer to the stupid question.]What does he mean by "the risk of same-sex attraction"?Lem wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:53 pmI don't see that, but I did see this comment
Wow.dCyl > Michael Hoggan • 5 hours ago
I'm going to speak the unspeakable here.
Perhaps the same mental disturbances that raise the risk of suicide also raise the risk of same-sex attraction.
Of course, the idea that same-sex attraction might represent a form of mental disturbance is utterly beyond the pale to our scientific and cultural leaders.
http://disq.us/p/2k6rj0u
These attitudes have to be fueling the suicide fire and they are shared by the leadership. Interview parents of children that committed suicide and I bet we will see that their church rooted attitudes contributed or lead directly to the problem.
in his blog entry it goes against his straw man argument here (green text is my addition):Findings suggest that LGBTQ youth in Utah would be well served if clinicians and advocacy groups pay attention to the ways that religious affiliation and family dynamics might indirectly lead to STBs among adolescents. Public Significance Statement:
This study found that both Latter-day Saint and non-Latter-day Saint LGBTQ youth are at higher risk for experiencing suicidal thoughts and behaviors than their heterosexual or cisgender peers. Additionally, for LGBTQ youth, higher levels of family conflict and lower levels of parental closeness were related to more depression, substance misuse, self-harm, suicidal thoughts, and suicide attempts. These findings demonstrate the potential familial and religious risks that LGBTQ youth may experience in Utah.
I don’t know what’s more oblivious, his self-own or his using suicides as a weapon against ‘critics of the church’ while moaning loudly that they’re the ones doing it.… [critics accuse] Latter-day Saint standards and doctrine make miserable the lives of adolescents who are attracted to people of their own sex. These critics hope to deploy youth suicides as a weapon against the claims of the Restored Church.
Yes, it is! Welcome. I’m the one who looked at the statistical analysis of the paper in the OP and found an error. You know, that Peterson, Smac and Lloyd are proclaiming is no more than “ad hominem” against lds authors.Canadiandude2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:38 pmHmm apparently this site is the board-not-ever-to-be-named.
I am learning new today
Also I should change my profile name.
I haven't seen Peterson argue that it's sufficient either. It's always fun to see Peterson's arguments evaporate when presented with contrary evidence to the implied unsaid point he wants his readers to believe.Peterson wrote:F Kratz: "Healthiest populations in order:
Spain, Italy, Iceland, Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, Australia, Singapore, Norway, Israel.
The Spanish lifestyle includes a largely Mediterranean diet, close family interactions, lots of walking and universal healthcare.
Religion, apparently, is not necessary for longevity, happiness or health."
Peterson: I'm unaware of anybody here who has argued that religion is necessary for longevity, happiness, or health.
Peterson regularly posts pieces under his ironically named motif “The Christopher Hitchens Religion Poisons Everything File” in an effort to show Religion is responsible for good things. I’d be surprised if he hasn’t posted an article or two on how Religious people are healthier and happier…it wasn’t difficult…drumdude wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:02 pmI haven't seen Peterson argue that it's sufficient either. It's always fun to see Peterson's arguments evaporate when presented with contrary evidence to the implied unsaid point he wants his readers to believe.Peterson wrote:F Kratz: "Healthiest populations in order:
Spain, Italy, Iceland, Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, Australia, Singapore, Norway, Israel.
The Spanish lifestyle includes a largely Mediterranean diet, close family interactions, lots of walking and universal healthcare.
Religion, apparently, is not necessary for longevity, happiness or health."
Peterson: I'm unaware of anybody here who has argued that religion is necessary for longevity, happiness, or health.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... eists.html“Official ‘Well-Being’ Statistics Show Religious People Are Happier Than Atheists”
FEBRUARY 8, 2016 BY DAN PETERSON
It’s imperative that we religious people avoid reacting to this with anything remotely like the smug sense of superiority that so many militant atheists direct at us.
That shouldn’t be difficult. It’s a very low bar.