The Rosebud MEGATHREAD

[¥akaSteelhead]

ah, yet another entry in the semi annual rosebud expose.

How time flies.

[drumdude]

I have a feeling she is going to get many requests from people who simply want more embarrassing documents on John Dehlin.

[Dwight]

Do we send a search party for jpatterson? Mayhap something has befallen the lad that he is unable to complete the task himself.

On a slightly related note it was interesting this week when a former coworker here in Sweden posted a screenshot from Kate Kelly to her Instagram stories and I wondered if it was worth mentioning how Kate doxxed poor Rosebud in her quest to besmirch Dehlin at any cost. A tweet that was only removed years later after I highlighted that it was still on Twitter on this board.

[Jersey Girl]

October 19, 2021

I am too busy with other things to want to spend time reading over John Dehlin documents. And I'm tired of this. That said, the Rosebud document collection still needs careful redacting so it can be released. I have many more documents than the few that were briefly released in May. There is a long chronology that ought to be made available to the public.

If you are interested in applying to help with redactions, please email me at mormonrosebud@gmail.com and tell me who you are and why you're interested. Yes, I will need your in-real-life name and some information about you before bringing you on board. No, I can't compensate anyone. It's John who has the money -- not me. That said, I will do my best to protect you from the retaliations that are par for the course of caring more about truth than politics.

Historians (and pseudo-historians) are encouraged to apply. But if you're willing to work, you're qualified.

I'd like this done, but it's not going to happen without bigger group of volunteers. I'm working on other projects right now and will not be involved.

Best,

Rosebud

https://www.mormonrosebud.com/redaction-errors/

SSDD. No. one. cares.

[Moksha]

.


I don't know how to love him
What to do, how to move him
I've been changed, yes really changed
In these past two decades
When I've seen myself
I cast no reflection at all
... Not at all

Should I bring him down?
Should I scream and shout?
Should I stab him more?
Let my feelings out?

I never thought I'd come to this
What's it all about?
Time to redact it all
... Redact it all


With apologies to Tim Rice and Andrew Lloyd-Webber

[Dr Exiled]

Amen and amen! Redact it all!

[Tator]

It's déjà vu all over again, another scorned drama queen episode, "As a dog returns to her vomit, so a fool repeats their folly."

Next episode, "A sow, after washing itself, wallows in the mud."

[The Stig]

[Craig Paxton]

October 19, 2021

I am too busy with other things to want to spend time reading over John Dehlin documents. And I'm tired of this. That said, the Rosebud document collection still needs careful redacting so it can be released. I have many more documents than the few that were briefly released in May. There is a long chronology that ought to be made available to the public.

If you are interested in applying to help with redactions, please email me at mormonrosebud@gmail.com and tell me who you are and why you're interested. Yes, I will need your in-real-life name and some information about you before bringing you on board. No, I can't compensate anyone. It's John who has the money -- not me. That said, I will do my best to protect you from the retaliations that are par for the course of caring more about truth than politics.

Historians (and pseudo-historians) are encouraged to apply. But if you're willing to work, you're qualified.

I'd like this done, but it's not going to happen without bigger group of volunteers. I'm working on other projects right now and will not be involved.

Best,

Rosebud

https://www.mormonrosebud.com/redaction-errors/

groan

[Rosebud]

Interesting debate. I watched the explosive moment regarding me about half way through. RFM calls me “mentally troubled” and Kwaku claims I was “assaulted.”

Men have been using women to make arguments against each other since men first started fighting over women.

The problem is that I’m not “mentally troubled” even if the troubles I’ve faced would have given me every excuse to be. It’s pretty standard, from my perspective, to see men using character assassinations of women they’ve never met in an effort to protect other men they know well from character assassinations (whether the other men are apostles, prophets or podcasters).

I think you’d all have a pretty rough time selling “mentally troubled” to those who know me well. What’s frightening is that abusive men often count on treating women badly enough to make them “mentally troubled” so the abusive men can use the “mentally troubled” character assassination against the women they’ve abused in efforts to protect themselves. It’s standard textbook stuff.

Am I financially troubled? Definitely. And that is the fault of the way men treat women inside and outside the church. But I’m sure I’ll be able to fix the problem eventually.

And I never claimed “assault.” That’s a convenient sound bite for Kwaku and the Midnight Mormons, but it’s a gross oversimplification of the standard reality half of this planet faces on a regular basis.

I get that what needs to happen to resolve this ridiculousness is for me to speak in a bigger way. The problem is that I think both sides of this debate are dominated by limited paradigms that have little to do with the actually reality we’re all swimming in. That makes it hard for me to care about the things either side cares about.

I care about other things. Not this stuff…. although it is weird to know there’s and explosiveness surrounding the way I’ve documented this situation rather than disappearing as John wanted and tried to force.

And Jeez….. study a bit more European and African history, Kwaku, before making claims using the history of secularism v. spirituality to be the root cause of the troubles our nation is facing in 2021. I waited for RFM to address the problems with Kwaku’s arguments, but maybe RFM doesn’t see them. Or maybe he gets addresses them in the second half of the debate…. idk. It’s like the blind debating the blind.

From where I sit, I’m not the one who’s “mentally troubled.” There’s a lot more to understand than the foolishness you’re all spending your time on.

I’d like to think you’d all care about discovering more…… but you have to have the guts to really look. Nobody can force anyone to really search out reality. That’s on you.

And no RFM, I’m not going to read this thread and converse with you. You haven’t earned that level of respect. Be more honest with yourself and others. And make amends when they are due.

There are too many men talking about too much with too little insight into the lived experiences of 50% of the population.

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My statement regarding “assault”: https://www.mormonrosebud.com/regarding-assault/