So God Forgot About His Wife in The Restoration?! My New Video

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So God Forgot About His Wife in The Restoration?! My New Video

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https://youtu.be/LuqH1KKYhrU

I thought of that title while it was already uploading! DANG IT MAN I wish I had thought to say that while making the video! LOL. Anyway, here is my newest of why I believe Biblical Archaeology does not support Joseph Smith's restoration. It has many beautiful slides to it also. I think I am actually getting the hang of it man. It's making it more and more fun to produce silly junk like this!
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This was an outstanding video filled with excellent content. The cadence and pace was pleasant and easy to follow. It was relaxing in its own special way.

Great job!

I linked this thread in a post within the Celestial Forum thread First Vision because that post was related to the general content of your video.
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Shulem wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:25 am
This was an outstanding video filled with excellent content. The cadence and pace was pleasant and easy to follow. It was relaxing in its own special way.

Great job!

I linked this thread in a post within the Celestial Forum thread First Vision because that post was related to the general content of your video.
Oh you are very kind my friend. Did you see the one comment and my replies?
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Oops! Joseph didn't forget. The Hathor cow is in the center of facsimile 2 in the book of Abraham. Facsimile 2 shows God the Father on his throne and God the Mother symbolic of the Hathor cow giving birth to all living.
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Sure he forgot. Does he identify that figure as God's Wife, consort, and Mother of the Gods? No he does not. True, modern Egyptologists now know this, but we have no evidence from Joseph Smith himself. He incorrectly called it Oliblish according to the Egyptians. There is not mention of the figure as the Hathor Cow. It is never found to be called Oliblish anywhere in any papyri.

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And yet again, I re-read this after having my midnight snack before bed. The figure is not identified as female either. She is not described as the Mother of the gods. She is not described as giving birth to the cosmos, or anything. This just cannot be said to be "a hit" for Joseph Smith. There is no mention of ANY of the females in this actually. Figure 7 "the sign of the Holy Ghost should be and was known as a Mother Goddess figure, whose symbol was the dove. The Holy Spirit is female in Early Christianity as mentioned by some of the early Church Fathers, and the Gnostics. It's all patriarchal male, and that's all wrong.

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And yet, one more time, you said "Facsimile 2 shows God the Father on his throne and God the Mother symbolic of the Hathor cow giving birth to all living." Nowhere in his explanations does Joseph Smith identify anything as "giving birth to all living." That is not Joseph Smith's words, they are yours. And I have no reason to give credit to Joseph Smith who did not say that. I do, however, give you a creativity point, though it's authentic valid points you are probably after and fail to find. I did the same thing when I was an apologist. It doesn't work.
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Philo, that was an interesting presentation. I had not heard or noticed that tiny matter of Elijah and the prophets of Asherah who are not mentioned as destroyed with the prophets of Baal. Oversight in writing ? Is this a historical event which the later monotheistic author of Kings did not change? Well there is plenty of evidence of Asherah in Judah till the captivity. Well it even gets repeated notice in the Bible which is strongly moving away from that polytheistic Canaanite background. It is something of a historical puzzle to decide what is the source and motive for the movement toward increasingly strict monotheism. Who when and why?

If no discussion on that question how about why have I heard so much from Mormon apologist about the Asherah, well Mormons do believe God is married ,no? I have some uncertainty as to why you speak of that idea being forgotten in the restoration. Well you may well be pointing to a lack of active role for the feminine in the divine in the LDS culture and observance

But Mormons might not be comfortable speaking of aspects of Spiritual relationship to the divine as persons having the sort of multiplicty that appears in some Jewish thought.Well in a variety of sorts of thought.(multiplicity of persons in a unity as found in the idea of Trinity is not very welcome in LDS circles)

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adding an after thought, I remember Dever contrasting the idea of folk country religion favoring Asherah and the court or upper class priest moving towards monotheism. Perhaps something there but it is a clear memory in the Old Testament that kings were a major power encouraging the Asherah and other aspects of Canaanite polythism.
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:39 am
Oh you are very kind my friend. Did you see the one comment and my replies?

Yes, I did see them. The apologists won't get anywhere trying to use Facsimile No. 2 as ammo for Joseph Smith's translation gun. Don't even get me started on that!

Smith shot nothing but blanks.

Ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!
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Huckleberry
If no discussion on that question how about why have I heard so much from Mormon apologist about the Asherah, well Mormons do believe God is married ,no? I have some uncertainty as to why you speak of that idea being forgotten in the restoration. Well you may well be pointing to a lack of active role for the feminine in the divine in the LDS culture and observance
Yes, the idea(s) that men can indicate that no revelation is legitimate for the church if "Mom" speaks up, let alone the acknowledgment of loving her and praying to her is a road to apostasy... :roll: It's patriarchal lunacy at its finest. It was her temple role that opened my eyes the most however. Anciently, as if this is a huge revelation, but it's not, many a cultures, in many a nations held sacred sex a legitimate part of actual worship, exactly as the sacrament on Sunday is, in fact, the sexual act IS the utmost elevated sacrament and held in temples. The Bible even indicates this when Josiah finally was able to eliminate the sacred male prostitutes once and for.
The prudery, and infantilization of the people of Mormonism, and the complete lack of respect, interaction, and love, and speaking about, and with "Mom" within Mormonism is the gap of the ages on my take. And, of course, the old boys in charge who must triple their intake of Viagra in order to perform to keep their wives in line publically will never change. The fact that they continue to attempt to keep all others from having personal worship and relationships with "Mom" is very concerning to many a women-folk in their midst. And so the charade of leadership continues marching to the tune of "Praise to the Men." Archaeologically, they are rather incomplete and restorationally, really incomplete.
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