Kyler Rasmussen and the Book of Abraham

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Note this interpreation "
God sitting upon his throne 0.1 Joseph identifies Figure 7 in Facsimile 2 as God sitting upon his throne, being presented with the key words of the priesthood. This matches well with the Egyptian understanding of the creator god Min being offered an Egyptian symbol of wisdom (the wedjat-eye). It could, however, be a relatively straightforward interpretation of those figures. We’ll count this as specific and detailed, but not unusual."

He says nothing about the figure presenting the wedjat-eye. Smith writes "the sign of the Holy Ghost unto Abraham in the form of a dove"
The sketch only shows the top of the figure. This is actually Nehebkau who offers the wedjat-eye to the sitting diety before him....Nehabka is ndentified with the Atum-serpent. " Mekis p. 273.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xoKNOA ... 6eBlG/view
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Moksha wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:38 am
What would happen if Kyler Rasmussen presented his findings to a true academic journal?
It would not end well for Kyler. He and others of his ilk know this. This is why they choose to remain in their own little echo chamber.
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hauslern wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:27 am
Tamas Mekis paper
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fc7 ... t3DDc/edit
What part of the linked paper would you recommend we read in context to this discussion? 290 pages is a lot to commit to, but I do appreciate there are a lot of pictures, because, you know, midwit here.

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Dr. Sunstoned wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:35 am
Moksha wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:38 am
What would happen if Kyler Rasmussen presented his findings to a true academic journal?
It would not end well for Kyler. He and others of his ilk know this. This is why they choose to remain in their own little echo chamber.
You'll notice it appears only in the Interpreter Blog, also. Not even Peterson and the editorial board of the Journal dare to put those laughable pieces into the Journal itself.
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I suspect that as soon as the Big 15 might de-canonize the Book of Abraham, as was done with the Lectures on Faith in 1921--without a vote of the general membership--all these Mopologists would immediately stop talking about the Book of Abraham, or claim that they knew all along it was not properly part of the canon. Scripture non grata, as it would then be.
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Kyler's admission " None of this is new information, and would fall under the categories listed in the essay, particularly Joseph's misunderstanding of the papyrus and the incorporation of his own ideas into his interpretations." Sounds like 1984. We have always been at war... "
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sock puppet wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:27 pm
I suspect that as soon as the Big 15 might de-canonize the Book of Abraham, as was done with the Lectures on Faith in 1921--without a vote of the general membership--all these Mopologists would immediately stop talking about the Book of Abraham, or claim that they knew all along it was not properly part of the canon. Scripture non grata, as it would then be.
They would also say that they always suspected it wasn't actually scripture, but more in line with midrash, and so no harm, no foul. MG tried to pull something along the lines that Smith hisself never actually tried to canonize it, so he didn't think it was scripture. Shulem, true to form, simply man handled the weak argument. It's up in the Celestial forums....
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Marcus wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:33 pm
Dr. Sunstoned wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:35 am


It would not end well for Kyler. He and others of his ilk know this. This is why they choose to remain in their own little echo chamber.
You'll notice it appears only in the Interpreter Blog, also. Not even Peterson and the editorial board of the Journal dare to put those laughable pieces into the Journal itself.
I think I may have found a suitable journal for Kyler to submit his work to:
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