Vindicated Yet Again: DCP Admits that Sorensen was “Set Apart” as a Mopologist

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Re: Vindicated Yet Again: DCP Admits that Sorensen was “Set Apart” as a Mopologist

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Morley wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:35 pm
My goodness, Tom, I'd like to think that those were the exact words.
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Re: Vindicated Yet Again: DCP Admits that Sorensen was “Set Apart” as a Mopologist

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Philo Sofee wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 pm
I would ABSOLUTELY ***LOVE*** to do a video on this information from Scratch as well! Lets put this out to the world shall we Scratch? I agree with the entire tenor of this thread here, you have been doing this service now for YEARS without outside recognition of this magnificent message board. I have truly thousands who would watch the video once I cobble something together! Can you hopefully put together several items such as the 2nd Watson Letter (HOWLING LAUGHTER!) and stuff like that in a list for me that you have done through the years? I would very gladly produce a video!!! This would go over HUGE, I can't help but think.
Please, please do this, Philo! That would rock!
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Re: Vindicated Yet Again: DCP Admits that Sorensen was “Set Apart” as a Mopologist

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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:52 am

Sweet fancy Moses
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Re: Vindicated Yet Again: DCP Admits that Sorensen was “Set Apart” as a Mopologist

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:50 pm
What I have in mind comes from a 2009 thread that you can read here:

https://www.discussmormonism.com/viewto ... 0#p1731040

Here’s Dr. Peterson’s dismissive comment:
Over on his home board, my Malevolent Stalker has launched a thread suggesting that certain folks like myself have been "set apart" to our callings as "apologists" for Mormonism, thus directly linking the Brethren to our unspeakable crimes against humanity. A few nitpickers have pointed out that, as usual, his suggestion lacks any real supporting evidence. On the whole, though, they've been ignored. The only question still remaining, therefore, involves the nature of our "setting apart." Was it done secretly? Was our "calling and election made sure" at the same moment? Have we, as seems likely from our sordid lives, been granted a free pass for unethical behavior?

[snip]

Apparently, the speculators over at my Malevolent Stalker's board don't intend ever to ask me -- they know that I'd only lie to them anyway, because that's just the kind of person I am (and, anyway, haven't I been granted a free pass for unethical behavior?) -- so I think I'll volunteer the relevant information, just in case there's somebody here who is aware of that discussion but too shy to inquire:

I've never been ordained, set apart, nor even blessed by anybody, whether a General Authority or a local leader or a friend or a family member -- to be a professor at BYU or an officer with FARMS or the Maxwell Institute or an "apologist." Period. And I've never heard of anybody who has been.
Apparently Dr. Peterson HAD heard of somebody who has been.
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Kerry, maybe you can add up the total expenditures on the Ghost Committee so that donors can appreciate the amount and see it to be money well spent in edifying the Church.

Not like all that archeology without a single sherd of Nephite pottery to show for it. The Ghost Committee is something tangible based on all the ale tankard remnants found in that pub basement. We're not talking about a bunch of dogs sitting around a table playing poker. This is the Ghost Committee damn it! Take Dr. Scratch's information to the top in your podcast.
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DCP in response to Chewbarker:
What kind of person are you? Have you really been stalking me for a quarter of a century, compiling lists of comments that I've made that you might someday be able to exploit against me? That is seriously, seriously weird.
You know. His victimology could be a bit more digestible had had he taken a similar approach toward Louis “dossier” Midgley. I mean the day the cojclds come out with very clear instructions to knock his crap off he picks fights with people in order to try to make himself look like an aggrieved victim. How hard is it to just repent, openly acknowledge your sins, and then fall in line with the church you proclaim to follow?

Apparently it’s an impossible ask of him to actually be a disciple of Christ.

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Re: Vindicated Yet Again: DCP Admits that Sorensen was “Set Apart” as a Mopologist

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:44 pm
Philo Sofee wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 pm


I would ABSOLUTELY ***LOVE*** to do a video on this information from Scratch as well! Lets put this out to the world shall we Scratch? I agree with the entire tenor of this thread here, you have been doing this service now for YEARS without outside recognition of this magnificent message board. I have truly thousands who would watch the video once I cobble something together! Can you hopefully put together several items such as the 2nd Watson Letter (HOWLING LAUGHTER!) and stuff like that in a list for me that you have done through the years? I would very gladly produce a video!!! This would go over HUGE, I can't help but think.
Philo:

I did a thread a couple of years ago summarizing what I thought were the most significant events in Mopologetics over the past decade or so:

https://www.discussmormonism.com/viewto ... 4&t=152819

Maybe that fits the bill?
It will! Thank you Dr. Scratch! I will give it a look!
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:30 pm
It’s odd seeing Peterson put “calling and election made sure” in quotes, as if he is implying the second anointing either never existed or is no longer in use.

It’s also very mocking in tone to refer to the most sacred of all LDS ordinances.
Notice too how he does the famous Apologetics shuffle! We have it now that John Sorenson actually WAS set apart for the apologetic thingy, so now Peterson say well ***MYSELF*** has never been, so therefor no one else has, and thus just after he shared that, in very point of fact, John Sorenson HAD been officially set apart by his Melchizedek Priesthood totin superior! :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh glorious doublespeak, shake not thy gory locks at me!
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:53 am
Philo Sofee wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 pm
I would ABSOLUTELY ***LOVE*** to do a video on this information from Scratch as well! Lets put this out to the world shall we Scratch? I agree with the entire tenor of this thread here, you have been doing this service now for YEARS without outside recognition of this magnificent message board. I have truly thousands who would watch the video once I cobble something together! Can you hopefully put together several items such as the 2nd Watson Letter (HOWLING LAUGHTER!) and stuff like that in a list for me that you have done through the years? I would very gladly produce a video!!! This would go over HUGE, I can't help but think.
Please, please do this, Philo! That would rock!
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Sorenson was wrong. The Mathenys were correct; too bad they published their criticism in Metcalf's book. Sorenson's rejoinder in FARMS was, in my view, an embarrassment.

Sorenson was better known in his professional capacity for his writings and encyclopedic publications on diffusionism. There is where his professional contribution lies. A brilliant man, and he did understand the text of the Book of Mormon better than anybody else. I give him a lot of credit for his profound faith in the Book of Mormon.

Again, my unpublished criticism of Sorenson's Book of Mormon work is here: https://bobcrockettlaw.com/wp-content/u ... graphy.pdf.
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