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Dr. Shades wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:44 am

drumdude wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:34 am

I wonder if DCP feels regret that he didn’t serve his country like his father did? In 1970 when DCP was 18, the United States drafted over 160,000 of his fellow Americans. 6,000 of those young men in Vietnam died that year. While he was drinking sodas and eating ice cream at BYU.

In FAIRness, having served in the military myself, I don't blame anyone a single iota for NOT serving if they don't absolutely have to. So let's be charitable to DCP in this regard.

No, I am NOT being sarcastic.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:40 pm

drumdude wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:34 am

I wonder if DCP feels regret that he didn’t serve his country like his father did? In 1970 when DCP was 18, the United States drafted over 160,000 of his fellow Americans. 6,000 of those young men in Vietnam died that year. While he was drinking sodas and eating ice cream at BYU.

Did he just luck out and not get drafted, or did he have an exemption? In my Ward, back in the 80’s, it wasn’t unusual to hear the odd Boomer talk about enlisting so they could pick their assignment, a sort of calculated risk I suppose.

- Doc

Louis Midgley
a day ago
My own attempt at a rationalizing explanation for what I call the strident anomaly of Blacks not being able to hold the priesthood, is that if we had initially gone to them we would have become a Black church, and this would have prevented the huge initial missionary harvest first in England, then Wales, and Sweden, Denmark and Norway, as well as Germany and the Netherlands. Those folks would not likely have become Latter-day Saints, if we had been even a bit Black.

I have fashioned this ad hoc explanation out of my experience in New Zealand where our initial and primary success had been with Māori, which immediately made bringing the Pākehā (Europeans) into what was largely a Māori community of Saints very difficult when I first had a look around Aotearoa in 1950. It is still essentially a Māori and Pacific Islander community of Saints.

drumdude wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:45 am

Louis Midgley
a day ago
My own attempt at a rationalizing explanation for what I call the strident anomaly of Blacks not being able to hold the priesthood, is that if we had initially gone to them we would have become a Black church, and this would have prevented the huge initial missionary harvest first in England, then Wales, and Sweden, Denmark and Norway, as well as Germany and the Netherlands. Those folks would not likely have become Latter-day Saints, if we had been even a bit Black.

I have fashioned this ad hoc explanation out of my experience in New Zealand where our initial and primary success had been with Māori, which immediately made bringing the Pākehā (Europeans) into what was largely a Māori community of Saints very difficult when I first had a look around Aotearoa in 1950. It is still essentially a Māori and Pacific Islander community of Saints.

Louis Midgley

I am waiting for a certain very dull gem to show up sneering...

Midge wrote:When someone like Fred Kratz talks about the need for for proof, I wonder what kind of academic training they have had. And especially when they turn up on sic et non trying their best to pull the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from its sold historical foundations.

drumdude wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:34 am

I wonder if DCP feels regret that he didn’t serve his country like his father did?