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Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:52 pm
by drumdude
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:39 pm
drumdude wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:27 pm


I have to question your faith in it then. Because people who are not members of Mormonism will have the chance in the afterlife to become members.

For example, if Islam is true, and you're Mormon, you risk eternal punishment for believing and spreading false teachings.

If Mormonism is true, and you're Muslim, you get to fix it in Mormon heaven.

So why exactly are you risking eternal hellfire when your own religion says you don't need to?
Islam is true for those that practice this faith without harming others. I have no conflict with my Muslim brothers and sisters.

Your ‘truth’ box is too restrictive in my view.

Regards,
MG
I'm talking specifically about the consequences of one's religious beliefs in the afterlife. You seem to believe there are no consequences.

Mormonism, Islam, and many other religions have very specific beliefs about this that have nothing to do with this postmodern concept of "my truth."

Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:57 pm
by doubtingthomas
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:39 pm
I have no conflict with my Muslim brothers and sisters.
And both religions have no problem with child marriage. In some countries the missionaries tell underage girls to get married.

Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:18 pm
by doubtingthomas
Notice MG doesn't deny it.

Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:28 pm
by MG 2.0
drumdude wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:52 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:39 pm


Islam is true for those that practice this faith without harming others. I have no conflict with my Muslim brothers and sisters.

Your ‘truth’ box is too restrictive in my view.

Regards,
MG
I'm talking specifically about the consequences of one's religious beliefs in the afterlife. You seem to believe there are no consequences.

Mormonism, Islam, and many other religions have very specific beliefs about this that have nothing to do with this postmodern concept of "my truth."
And that’s fine. A couple of things. First, a talk by Elder Uchtdorf:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/bro ... h?lang=eng

As you read this talk and especially “The Blind Men and the Elephant”, consider the possibility that truth comes in many packages. Some smaller or larger than others.

Then consider this:
"God judges men according to the use they make of the light which He gives them."

- Joseph Smith Jr.

and this:

"One of the grand fundamental principles of Mormonism is to receive truth, let it come from whence it may."

- Joseph Smith Jr.

Now, to emphasize that Latter Day Saints do make claims to see the larger elephant we then read:

"The Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done."

- Joseph Smith Jr.

I’m perfectly willing to let God be the judge between me and thee…or anyone else…in the afterlife.

Regards,
MG

Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:32 pm
by Marcus
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:39 pm
Islam is true for those that practice this faith without harming others...
What?!! I don't recall that as a Mormon relief, where are you getting that?

Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:37 pm
by MG 2.0
Marcus wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:32 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:39 pm
Islam is true for those that practice this faith without harming others...
What?!! I don't recall that as a Mormon relief, where are you getting that?
I’m going to let this one sit and request that you do a bit more reading/research on your own. Oh, and also a wee bit of good reasoning. 😉

I’m assuming you meant “belief”. 🙂

Regards,
MG

Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:39 pm
by doubtingthomas
Marcus wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:32 pm

What?!! I don't recall that as a Mormon relief, where are you getting that?
Some Mormon "intellectuals" believe all main worldwide religions are true.

MG thinks child marriage is okay.

Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:42 pm
by Marcus
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:37 pm
Marcus wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:32 pm

What?!! I don't recall that as a Mormon belief, where are you getting that?
I’m going to let this one sit and request that you do a bit more reading/research on your own. Oh, and also a wee bit of good reasoning.
No. I'm asking you a specific question about YOUR comment:
Marcus wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:32 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:39 pm
Islam is true for those that practice this faith without harming others...
What?!! I don't recall that as a Mormon belief, where are you getting that?

Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:44 pm
by doubtingthomas
drumdude wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:52 pm
I'm talking specifically about the consequences of one's religious beliefs in the afterlife. You seem to believe there are no consequences.

Mormonism, Islam, and many other religions have very specific beliefs about this that have nothing to do with this postmodern concept of "my truth."
Mormon apologists don't see it that way.

Re: Why Brad says every other church is false

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:45 pm
by doubtingthomas
Marcus wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:42 pm

No. I'm asking you a specific question about YOUR comment:
MG isn't trolling. Some Mormon apologists believe Muhammad was a prophet of god.