"God will not be mocked"

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"God will not be mocked"

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I found this interesting talk from Kimball from about 50 years ago:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... d?lang=eng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8ye4wuZh7s


He had a laundry list of things people do that "mock God." Anyone who does these things will pay for it, dearly.


1) Vasectomies
We are aghast at the reports of young people going to surgery to limit their families and the reputed number of parents who encourage this vasectomy. Remember that the coming of the Lord approaches, and some difficult-to-answer questions will be asked by a divine Judge who will be hard to satisfy with silly explanations and rationalizations. He will judge justly, you may be sure.
2) Abortions
As to abortions, we deplore the reported million unborn children who will lose their lives in this country this year. Certainly the women who yield to this ugly sin and the sin which often generated it, and those who assist them, should remember that retribution is sure. It is sure.
3) Non-vaginal sex
May we repeat: Sex perversions of men and women can never replenish the earth and are definitely sin without excuse, and rationalizations are very weak; God will not tolerate it.
4) Single mothers and fathers
A higher and higher percentage of children grow up with only one parent. This is certainly not the way of the Lord. He expected for a father and a mother to rear their children. Certainly any who deprive their children of a parent will have some very stiff questions to answer.
5) Pre-marital sex
The earth cannot justify nor continue its life without marriage and the family. Sex without marriage, for all people, young or older, is an abomination to the Lord, and it is most unfortunate that many people have blinded their eyes to these great truths.
6) Unmarried Mormons or Mormons without children
We say again: We members of the Church marry. All normal people should marry. (There could be a few exceptions.) All normal married couples should become parents.
7) Being a "Tomboy", being a "Sissy", or being a Transgender
Some people are ignorant or vicious and apparently attempting to destroy the concept of masculinity and femininity. More and more girls dress, groom, and act like men. More and more men dress, groom, and act like women. The high purposes of life are damaged and destroyed by the growing unisex theory. God made man in his own image, male and female made he them. With relatively few accidents of nature, we are born male or female. The Lord knew best. Certainly, men and women who would change their sex status will answer to their Maker.
8) Being a homosexual or using pornography (they're the same thing apparently)
Every form of homosexuality is sin. Pornography is one of the approaches to that transgression. There is no halfway.
9) Being sexual in any way before being sealed with a cultic temple ritual
Now the lust of the heart and the lust of the eyes and the lust of the body bring us to the major sin. Let every man remain at home with his affections. Let every woman sustain her husband and keep her heart where it belongs—at home with her family. Let every youth keep himself from the compromising approaches and then with great control save himself from the degrading and life-damaging experience of sexual impurity. There must be an early and total and continuing repentance.
10) Looking at a man or woman at work
“But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”
11) Not spanking your children
We seem to shrink away from punishing of criminals or the disciplining even of children.
12) Using porn
It is ridiculous to imply that pornography has no effect. There is a definite relationship to crime. Murder, robbery, rape, prostitution, and commercialized vice are fed on this immorality. Sex statistics seem to reflect a relationship between crime and pornography.
13) Taking the Lord's name in vain
When we go to places of entertainment and mingle among people, we are shocked at the blasphemy that seems to be acceptable among them. The commandment says, “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”
14) Wasting food at parties
We are also concerned with the great waste from our homes and stores and restaurants and otherwise. After the usual banquet, enough is carried out in the garbage to feed numerous mouths that have been drooling for a bite to eat in less-favored countries. Many are starving, and we throw away much and waste much.
15) Taking vacations
We believe in work. We remember the fourth of the Ten Commandments says, “Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work” (Ex. 20:9), and we are not sure that the rapidly decreasing work week is beneficial to mankind. We think the Lord knew what he was talking about. It would seem that we are play-conscious, travel-conscious, and our economy seems to be providing for the traveling public and the gaming public and the drinking public.
16) Buying your food from the grocery store
The Lord planned that we would be independent of every creature, but we note even many farmers buy their milk from dairies and home owners buy their garden vegetables from the store. And should the trucks fail to fill the shelves of the stores, many would go hungry.
17) Working on Sunday
We call attention also to the habit in which many buy their commodities on the Sabbath. Many employed people would be released for rest and worship on the Sabbath if we did not shop on that day. Numerous excuses and rationalizations are presented to justify the Sunday buying. We call upon all of you to keep the Sabbath holy and make no Sunday purchases.
18) Using sleep aids
We hope our people will eliminate from their lives all kinds of drugs so far as possible. Too many depend upon drugs as tranquilizers and sleep helps, which is not always necessary.
19) Using legalized marijuana
Certainly numerous young people have been damaged or destroyed by the use of marijuana and other deadly drugs. We deplore such.
20) Drinking eggnog with rum in it
We deplore the practice of many business and professional firms and others who serve liquor as a part of the entertainment in their special parties. We are especially concerned that at Christmas time many celebrate this holy birth of Jesus Christ our Lord with a so-called social hour which surely must be an affront to him.





Finally, at the end of the talk. He puts the fear of God into every Mormon listening:
Remember, God is in his heavens. He knew what he was doing when he organized the earth. He knows what he is doing now. Those of us who break his commandments will regret and suffer in remorse and pain. God will not be mocked. Man has his free agency, it is sure, but remember, GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED.

Is it any surprise the leaders of the Mormon religion act the way they do today, having been indoctrinated with this filth 50 years ago?
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:32 pm
I found this interesting talk from Kimball from about 50 years ago:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... d?lang=eng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8ye4wuZh7s


He had a laundry list of things people do that "mock God." Anyone who does these things will pay for it, dearly.
...
20) Drinking eggnog with rum in it
We deplore the practice of many business and professional firms and others who serve liquor as a part of the entertainment in their special parties. We are especially concerned that at Christmas time many celebrate this holy birth of Jesus Christ our Lord with a so-called social hour which surely must be an affront to him.
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He missed eating Black Forest Cake made with Schnapps.

I used to attend a ward with a large number of German members, one of whom was an excellent baker. He always made a cake for the Christmas party - with schnapps added after the baking. It was totally delicious, but more than a little piece would have put me under the table.
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I've seen Mormons eating coffee flavored ice cream with zero moral guilt. Shame on them! GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED :lol:
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:40 pm
I've seen Mormons eating coffee flavored ice cream with zero moral guilt. Shame on them! GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED :lol:
As long as it was good quality ice cream, that they "paid dearly" for, it would seem to satisfy Kimball's rant :)
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:40 pm
I've seen Mormons eating coffee flavored ice cream with zero moral guilt. Shame on them! GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED :lol:
👍 :lol:
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:32 pm
I found this interesting talk from Kimball from about 50 years ago:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... d?lang=eng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8ye4wuZh7s

Wow. What a great talk. I wish he had gone on to address recycling and putting the toilet paper roll on upside down. (Ahem, are you reading this, Honey?)


I also had a question about this:
Sex perversions of men and women can never replenish the earth and are definitely sin without excuse
Does that mean it's okay to have non-vaginal sex after, say 45, when replenishing the earth is out of the question? Asking for a friend.


However, I especially liked this:
Every form of homosexuality is sin.
It's got me scratching my head. How many forms of homosexuality are there? There's the same sex kind and then there's...? (I'm frankly stumped.)
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:32 pm
13) Taking the Lord's name in vain
Spencer W. Kimball wrote:When we go to places of entertainment and mingle among people, we are shocked at the blasphemy that seems to be acceptable among them. The commandment says, “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”

GODDAMN you, Spencer Kimball you JACKASS for Mormon Jesus!


Stupid Mormons!

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Yoda shall not be mocked
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I think it's powerful fear mongering because when you control people's sex AND money.......well, you gots em!
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I wonder how much better life would have been growing up under the hippy version of Spencer W. Kimball.
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