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Based on his study of animal species, Darwin noted that environmental conditions favor some individuals within a population better than others. Members of a species that developed certain traits were better suited to survive and reproduce across generations. Over generations, he argued, this process of “natural selection” could give rise to new species.

drumdude wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:13 pm

I find it interesting that evolution is one of the things DCP quickly concedes. Even though it is completely incompatible with LDS doctrine. I think it's mostly because he hates Mormons being called ignorant rubes for believing in young earth creationism.

Moksha wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:16 pm

What about all the denials of evolution and the claim of a 7000-year-old earth?

Now here are some doctrines that weaken faith and may damn. It depends on how inured a person gets to them, and how much emphasis he puts on them, and how much the doctrine begins to govern the affairs of his life. Evolution is one of them. Somebody can get so wrapped up in so-called organic evolution that he ends up not believing in the atoning sacrifice of the Lord Jesus. Such a course leads to damnation.

KevinSim wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:41 pm

drumdude wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:13 pm

I find it interesting that evolution is one of the things DCP quickly concedes. Even though it is completely incompatible with LDS doctrine. I think it's mostly because he hates Mormons being called ignorant rubes for believing in young earth creationism.

Drumdude, how is evolution incompatible with LDS doctrine?

drumdude wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:12 pm

KevinSim wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:41 pm

Drumdude, how is evolution incompatible with LDS doctrine?

Because from an evolutionary perspective there is no such thing as a constant human, there is a continuous extremely gradual evolution from a lower non-human species into the existing human one that occurred over hundreds of thousands and millions of years. This is completely against the Garden of Eden narrative in the temple which lays out the young earth creationist theory that humans were placed on earth in their present day form.

I suppose you could say that humans before 6,000 years ago were soul-less zombies without spirits. They had all the intellectual skills, social skills, emotions, they lived lives, loved each other, buried their dead, but because of LDS theology they weren't allowed to have eternal life. Good luck explaining that to a new member or potential convert.

Rivendale wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:48 pm

drumdude wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:12 pm

Because from an evolutionary perspective there is no such thing as a constant human, there is a continuous extremely gradual evolution from a lower non-human species into the existing human one that occurred over hundreds of thousands and millions of years. This is completely against the Garden of Eden narrative in the temple which lays out the young earth creationist theory that humans were placed on earth in their present day form.

I suppose you could say that humans before 6,000 years ago were soul-less zombies without spirits. They had all the intellectual skills, social skills, emotions, they lived lives, loved each other, buried their dead, but because of LDS theology they weren't allowed to have eternal life. Good luck explaining that to a new member or potential convert.

Some believers are shocked when they find out they have soulless Neanderthal blood in their 23 and me results.

drumdude wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:12 pm

I suppose you could say that humans before 6,000 years ago were soul-less zombies without spirits. They had all the intellectual skills, social skills, emotions, they lived lives, loved each other, buried their dead, but because of LDS theology they weren't allowed to have eternal life. Good luck explaining that to a new member or potential convert.

Moksha wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:20 am

drumdude wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:12 pm

I suppose you could say that humans before 6,000 years ago were soul-less zombies without spirits. They had all the intellectual skills, social skills, emotions, they lived lives, loved each other, buried their dead, but because of LDS theology they weren't allowed to have eternal life. Good luck explaining that to a new member or potential convert.

Okay, I will accept that challenge: They lacked the handshakes and the ability to perform nude clogging in the Temple, necessary for eternal progression. Hope that helps.