KevinSim wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:45 pm
Dr. Shades, in one sense there is no need; I can't prove that anyone is going to suffer and die because humans are no longer around.
What does that nonsense statement have to do with
anything? You can literally prove, right now, that humans cause other humans and other things to suffer and die because we’re
here. A Russian soldier just castrated a Ukrainian POW, on video, and posted it. The identified Russian soldier has been mutilating Ukrainians (snipping off extremities) any time he could get his hands on one. In fact, it’s suspected this soldier has been doing this in prior conflicts where he’s been assigned.
That’s one human out of billions, living and dead, that have all suffered and died because that’s the human experience. There’s no alleviating that unless you train your mind and body to detach from it. Other than a few souls who’ve transcended the human condition this will not change the fact billions upon billions will live and die and suffering is a fact of exist. Humans will never alleviate existential suffering, but we sure as heack are going to be the cause of much of it.
But in another sense I think humans have a need to make a difference in the universe, in the short term and the long term.
“Make a difference.” What does that even mean? Do you mean consume space and resources so we can make more humans and so on? Even if humans became a Type II civilization what does “make a difference” mean to anything being acted upon by a human?
And there's also the matter of conscience. I think humans need to satisfy their consciences, and their consciences can't ignore the generation of real people, with hopes and dreams like you and I have, whose hopes and dreams are not going to be fulfilled because we chose to not work towards them.
Future humans are a direct and indirect result of actions taken by everything on and off this earth. What does ‘we should make a better world for our kids’ have to do with
anything that you’ve claimed on this thread with regard to atheists creating a god for themselves?
See? This is the BS you do, MG. You show up, disrupt a thread, make it all about you, lie about your motivations (or even who you are), just suck up all the attention you can get, pretend that you’re just ‘mulling things over - ‘taking a nuanced approach to Mormonism’, and all the while playing nonsense games with the quote feature and messing with posters.
You’ve done this for twenty years, and you’ll do this until you’re dead. Mormonism isn’t “true”. It isn’t even truthy. And now you’re creating fantastical worlds full of fantastical people to which you can assign your motivations all in order to ignore the clear and obvious falsity of your religion where, like the example with evolution, you can ignore 100 prophets and glom onto 1 in order to preserve your right to larp.
- Doc