Book of Mormon Scholarship fireside with Dr. Peterson tonight

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Tom wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:48 pm
Dr. Peterson is giving a fireside address tonight in Calgary on the latest in Book of Mormon scholarship.

Did Peterson solve the problem with the narrow neck down in Mesoamerica? Now that he seems to be in better shape, I'll bet he can march the distance in a single day!

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Shulem,


The anti-Mormon critic has no rebuttal to how Joseph Smith, the nearly braindead infant who dictated the Book of Mormon in 8 hours, could have known the intricate complexities of ancient grape growing.
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drumdude wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:56 am
Peterson just claimed that non-LDS Uto-Aztecan language experts have said they believe the LDS research (on the link between Hebrew and Aztec languages) is credible. It would be interesting to email them (there aren't many) to see if that is actually the case.
Dr. Peterson can make any claim he wants while on LDS Church grounds. The evidence presented by Symmachus and Shulem does not enter the reality of the LDS Zone.
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Tom wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:08 pm
Many jokes about Joseph Smith's deep learning and study at Cambridge, etc. John Gee has a degree in Egyptology, and Stan Carmack has a law degree and a doctoral degree in linguistics. Some topics I jotted down: early modern English in the Book of Mormon (divine joke?), stylometry, pace of translation, seismology and vulcanology, olive culture, execution of Zemnarihah, rhetorical density, Gadianton robbers and guerilla warfare, ancient warfare, chiasmus (I did not quite catch the story of an unnamed professor who was "troubled" by the presence of chiasmus in the Book of Mormon), Benjamin's speech and the Feast of the Tabernacles, Mesoamerican archaeology (e.g., concrete), Bountiful, Nahom, heavenly councils in the Book of Mormon, if-and conditionals, consistency with Mayan timekeeping (baktun), the name Alma, land of Jerusalem, simile curses, what was a Mosiah, Christopher Columbus, Jershon. Dr. Peterson brought a Mormon apologetics firehose to the stake centre. The address repeated many of the points in Echoes and Evidences of the Book of Mormon and Reexploring the Book of Mormon. For that reason, the address didn't live up to its billing: "The Latest in Book of Mormon Scholarship."

His discussion of the name Alma failed to mention that it was a male name in the United States. He seemed to claim that we have most of the original manuscript of the Book of Mormon (we don't). He noted that his article on olive culture with John Gee had jokes in the footnotes. (I read through the footnotes last night searching for the jokes.)

Bottom line: a piece of Mormon apologetics that made no mention of difficulties and criticisms and that seemed designed to inspire wonder and awe in the audience (à la the Wizard of Oz).
Thank you for the re-cap, Tom. Quite disappointing (and yet unsurprising) that nothing new was on offer.
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Thanks Tom and Philo for adding to Cassius’ scholarship; its vast catalogue of Mopologetics is necessary in this day of publicly proffered lies being passed off as truth by scholars shilling on behalf of a billion dollar umbrella corporation.

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Tom wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:08 pm
His discussion of the name Alma failed to mention that it was a male name in the United States.

That was covered in much depth in this important thread on ALMA!

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Why is there a scholarship fireside on the B of M when both LDS and non-LDS historians and researchers agree and know that Smith concocted the whole thing by looking at a rock in a hat and dictated a fictitious story by plagiarizing the works of others and creating his own religion??? Guy was a scam artist, con-man and charlatan of the highest order, why is there a constant debate about this and that RE B of M locations, peoples, geography, linguistics, archaeology, wars, etc. when the whole thing is a giant ruse and fraud??? :oops:
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Shulem wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:20 pm
Tom wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:08 pm
His discussion of the name Alma failed to mention that it was a male name in the United States.

That was covered in much depth in this important thread on ALMA!

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Bill Reel publicly whacked Peterson’s pee pee over his use of Alma as an argument for Book of Mormon authenticity three years ago during the summer of 2019.

And Peterson acknowledged it!

For Peterson to resurrect this argument at this late date demonstrates his lack of interest in the truth.
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Hey when you go see The Rolling Stones, you don’t want to hear their new stuff. You want the golden oldie hits. The music that makes you feel nostalgic for the good old days when nothing was complicated and blacks still couldn’t get married in the temple.
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drumdude wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:25 pm
Hey when you go see The Rolling Stones, you don’t want to hear their new stuff. You want the golden oldie hits. The music that makes you feel nostalgic for the good old days when nothing was complicated and blacks still couldn’t get married in the temple.

Jimmy Hendrix himself couldn't have held the priesthood, nor be baptized for the dead in the temple. Not that he would have wanted to, hell no, but just saying. Voodoo Child, baby!

Ain't that right RFM? Seattle's own Jimmy Hendrix, baby. Yeah baby! KJR Seattle, channel 95!

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