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Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:21 pm
by Kishkumen
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:49 pm
I feel that John Widstoe's 1908 "Joseph Smith as Scientist" may deserve a place in the timeline.
Good call, Doctor! That early part of the timeline needs a lot of work.

Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:39 pm
by Doctor Steuss
1980 - Eugene England sends out copies of "The Perfection and Progression of God: Two Spheres of Existence and Two Modes of Discourse," attempting to harmonize the teachings of various LDS leaders. Several months later, in 1981, Bruce R. McConkie tells England "...it is my province to teach to the Church what the doctrine is. It is your province to echo what I say or to remain silent."

Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:06 am
by Morley
November 2010. In Stockholm, Sweden, LDS Church historians Marlin Jensen and Richard Turley hold an emergency fireside to address the 'Swedish faith crisis.'

Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:06 am
by Elphaba
2008
Massacre at Mountain Meadows by Walker, Turkey, and Leonard is published.
"Turkey" should be "Turley," unless, of course, it was done on purpose.

Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:24 am
by drumdude
Who can forget FairMormon’s TITS?

Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:56 am
by Kishkumen
Morley wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:06 am
November 2010. In Stockholm, Sweden, LDS Church historians Marlin Jensen and Richard Turley hold an emergency fireside to address the 'Swedish faith crisis.'
Thanks! An important event to remember!

Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:56 am
by Kishkumen
Elphaba wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:06 am
2008
Massacre at Mountain Meadows by Walker, Turkey, and Leonard is published.
"Turkey" should be "Turley," unless, of course, it was done on purpose.
LOL! I’ll fix that. Thanks!

Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:45 am
by Binger
Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:44 pm

1981
Chiasmus in Antiquity is in galley proofs and is due out in the Fall.
John W. Welch publishes Chiasmus in Antiquity.
Great list. Great work.

Kish, in your archives and data is there a specific thread detailing the life of this Chiasmus work? It is, in my experience, one apologetic masterpiece that went mainstream. Meaning, it became part of elders quorum rants, high priest group eloquence, CES lessons, firesides, MTC higher level lessons, read-aloud sunday school lessons and home teaching.

How did this particular apologetic art get so widespread?

Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:36 pm
by Shulem
For your consideration:

I hesitated to say anything earlier because I didn't want to self-aggrandize but maybe you should consider that the discovery of Anubis's missing nose happened right here on Discuss Mormonism, live, and members here helped me with details of that discovery. Discussion followed along with other threads about this important feature. Within minutes Philo Sofee was there to participate and relish the sensational find! Yeah baby!! So far (almost 5 years) to my knowledge the Church and its Egyptologists have made no public mention of the obvious implications of this important discovery.

Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:08 pm A few questions for Shulem

Re: Master Timeline of Mopologetics, Second Edition

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:27 pm
by Dr. Shades
Masterful work, Reverend Kishkumen. You mentioned Kevin Graham switching sides; should there be a reference to Kerry Shirts switching sides as well?