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Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:44 pm
by MG 2.0
dastardly stem wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 5:30 pm
Given Mormonism what did God create, MG? Did he create the earth? the Universe and everything in it? Or does he exist in the universe and works within that realm?
You’re already off on a rabbit trail.
Again, I’d refer you to Mosiah 4:9
I’ll put it in a larger font this time in case you missed it.
Believe in God; believe that he is, and that he created all things, both in heaven and in earth; believe that he has all wisdom, and all power, both in heaven and in earth; believe that man doth not comprehend all the things which the Lord can comprehend.”
Mosiah 4:9
Once you go beyond that…and it doesn’t take much to do so…you’re off to the races. And you might lose sight of who or what God is.
You’ve been down many rabbit trails and gone around in circles ad infinitum. Are you any closer to explaining or understanding God?
If not, where has that gotten you?
Regards,
MG
Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:47 pm
by MG 2.0
Gadianton wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:16 pm
The way I see it is IF a creator God exists it’s of little or no value and serves no purpose to question His ways.
Why? Why does the technical ability create something assure that a creator is good?
Do think Jesus would pray to an evil God? Did He pray to his Father in Heaven?
Regards,
MG
Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:05 pm
by Gadianton
you're changing the subject. Your first point was coherent enough to at least respond to. Your new point is so stupid it's not worth responding to.
Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:13 pm
by MG 2.0
Gadianton wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:05 pm
you're changing the subject. Your first point was coherent enough to at least respond to. Your new point is so stupid it's not worth responding to.
Ok.
For what it’s worth, the New Testament seems to point towards the fact that Jesus saw God as good. And that when he prayed to Him he prayed to a God of love.
Regards,
MG
Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:23 pm
by Dr Moore
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Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:30 pm
by MG 2.0
Dr Moore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:23 pm
Power-surge-protector.jpg
I wish I had thought about using a graphic when responding to DS. This is the one I would have chosen.
There has been little or nothing come from the ages old arguments for and against God. Me thinks that unless we are plugged into the source we will continue to bark up the wrong tree.
Regards,
MG
Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:52 pm
by Morley
Wow.
Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:08 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:30 pm
Dr Moore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:23 pm
Power-surge-protector.jpg
I wish I had thought about using a graphic when responding to DS. This is the one I would have chosen.
There has been little or nothing come from the ages old arguments for and against God. Me thinks that unless we are plugged into the source we will continue to bark up the wrong tree.
Regards,
MG
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Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:40 pm
by dastardly stem
MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:44 pm
dastardly stem wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 5:30 pm
Given Mormonism what did God create, MG? Did he create the earth? the Universe and everything in it? Or does he exist in the universe and works within that realm?
You’re already off on a rabbit trail.
Again, I’d refer you to Mosiah 4:9
I’ll put it in a larger font this time in case you missed it.
Believe in God; believe that he is, and that he created all things, both in heaven and in earth; believe that he has all wisdom, and all power, both in heaven and in earth; believe that man doth not comprehend all the things which the Lord can comprehend.”
Mosiah 4:9
Once you go beyond that…and it doesn’t take much to do so…you’re off to the races. And you might lose sight of who or what God is.
You’ve been down many rabbit trails and gone around in circles ad infinitum. Are you any closer to explaining or understanding God?
If not, where has that gotten you?
Regards,
MG
I see you continue to avoid every or any question I ask you. That’s very nice of you.
Re: God is evil, or likes it, or enjoys it whatever
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:30 am
by Marcus
Gadianton wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:16 pm
The way I see it is IF a creator God exists it’s of little or no value and serves no purpose to question His ways.
Why? Why does the technical ability create something assure that a creator is good?
this discussion reminds me of Kirk's question,
“what does God want with a starship?”
...Of course, we know that Kirk isn’t looking from an answer from “God”. What Kirk is doing is challenging the claim that the blue-faced, Sith lightning bolt-throwing, creature of Sha Ka Ree is God at all. You see, Captain James Tiberius Kirk does not believe that God exists....
Roddenberry’s vision of the future is a universe where testable science and reason is preferred to superstition and religious faith....
The Star Trek preference of the secular over religion is best articulated by Bertrand Russell in his essay, “Why I Am Not A Christian”. Russell writes that religion:
… inflicts all sorts of people undeserved and unnecessary suffering. And of course, as we know, it is in its major part an opponent still of progress and of improvement in all the ways that diminish suffering in he world…
Religion is based, I think, primarily and mainly upon fear. It is partly the terror of the unknown, and partly as I have said, the wish to feel that you have a kind of elder brother who will stand by you in all of your troubles and disputes. Fear is the basis of the whole thing – fear of the mysteries, fear of defeat, fear of death.
https://themindlessphilosopher.wordpres ... -starship/
