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LDS Freedom Forum wrote:Bonnie Cordon shared about an experience with her grandson’s death. I wanted to know more about what happened to him. She said he just stopped breathing, and they lost him. This is what I found:

Bonnie Cordon’s grandson didn’t just “stop breathing.” He died of head trauma caused by apparent non-accidental abuse. Homicide.

Dr Moore wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:42 pm

I read the PDF report. Haven't listened yet.
This all went down 5.5 years ago.

Are we just hearing about it now because Bonnie Cordon used the story of her grandson's homicide to tell a faith-promoting story about the holy ghost whispering to her?

I guess the question I have is, why didn't the same holy ghost whisper to her that her grandson was being violently shaken by his mother, in sufficient time to save his life? He would have been baptized this year, surely a future missionary.

Days after Young Women General President Bonnie H. Cordon lost her grandson Derek to an unexpected death, she had an assignment at Primary Children’s Hospital in Salt Lake City. She wasn’t sure she could do it.

President Cordon’s heart was heavy after spending about three days in the intensive care unit at a children’s hospital before Derek died. Her family was on a vacation together when he suddenly stopped breathing.

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:24 am

My first law firm regularly represented the county coroners office. The coroner was sued from time to time over findings that the deceased had committed suicide. Even when the evidence was crystal clear, some parents, children, spouses, etc. could not accept that their loved one would commit suicide. The cases went on and on forever — it was pretty unbelievable.

That was the first time it struck me how strong denial can be.

I would guess that the situation is a thousand times worse when a loved one commits such an awful act as apparently occurred here. It would not surprise me at all if the grandmother was in deep denial about what happened. And the state’s decision not to prosecute would be an easy thing to latch onto as “evidence” that the daughter in law really didn’t do it — that the medical examiner was wrong — that he really did stop breathing. And it does not surprise me that her mind built a narrative that something good had grown out of an awful event.

The church should really do some serious fact checking in these faith promoting anecdotes. Someone should have had the wisdom to steer her away from using her grandson’s death in this manner.

I feel nothing but compassion for the grandmother, and dragging her back through a tragic and hideous event seems unnecessarily cruel to me. I truly don’t get it.

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:24 am

The church should really do some serious fact checking in these faith promoting anecdotes.

Dr Exiled wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:30 am

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:24 am

My first law firm regularly represented the county coroners office. The coroner was sued from time to time over findings that the deceased had committed suicide. Even when the evidence was crystal clear, some parents, children, spouses, etc. could not accept that their loved one would commit suicide. The cases went on and on forever — it was pretty unbelievable.

That was the first time it struck me how strong denial can be.

I would guess that the situation is a thousand times worse when a loved one commits such an awful act as apparently occurred here. It would not surprise me at all if the grandmother was in deep denial about what happened. And the state’s decision not to prosecute would be an easy thing to latch onto as “evidence” that the daughter in law really didn’t do it — that the medical examiner was wrong — that he really did stop breathing. And it does not surprise me that her mind built a narrative that something good had grown out of an awful event.

The church should really do some serious fact checking in these faith promoting anecdotes. Someone should have had the wisdom to steer her away from using her grandson’s death in this manner.

I feel nothing but compassion for the grandmother, and dragging her back through a tragic and hideous event seems unnecessarily cruel to me. I truly don’t get it.

It has to be tough for her (grandma cardon), however, I wonder what happened the night of the event. What did she know and what was her decision-making process? What was her level of participation in this? Was there a commitment to cover this up? Is there guilt she has for participating in this? Is this why she wants to turn this into something supposedly faith promoting where God was involved? From the evidence given in the CPS report, it seems clear that everyone knew or probably had a good idea what happened. How special needs was the little boy and how was he as a toddler? I remember difficult times dealing with toddlers and sometimes people just lose it. That doesn't justify the behavior and Hana needs to explain a lot and perhaps face some prison time. It's simply a sad story all around.