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Possible explanation for the BYU-Duke volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:34 pm
by Dr Moore
Hundreds of fans behind you screaming “Cou-gars.”
Maybe what Richardson heard was “Grrr.” Lots of them.
And turning, sees many passionate, white fans.
Maybe her grandma had planted seeds of heightened sensitivity.
Possible - fits all the facts?
Re: Possible explanation for the volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:37 pm
by Dr Moore
Another possibility… BYUs starter Libero has last name of “Clinger.”
https://byucougars.com/roster/w-volleyball
The Libero is the player responsible for receiving and bumping the serve. So on opponent serve, informed fans would be cheering for that person specifically.
Richardson could have heard fans yelling “Clinger!”
Re: Possible explanation for the BYU-Duke volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:46 am
by hauslern
There is an interesting article in Slate on the matter:
https://slate.com/culture/2022/09/rache ... acism.html
Re: Possible explanation for the BYU-Duke volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:33 am
by Doctor CamNC4Me
The latest from the Trib re: incidents at the U:
The U. notes that there have been four racist incidents on campus in the past year. That also includes a bomb threat at the school’s Black Cultural Center in January, as well as two students who reportedly shouted a racist slur at a worker as he delivered a delivery to a loading dock in the dormitories in September.
I’m starting to think this isn’t just a BYU thing here in Utah …
- Doc
Re: Possible explanation for the BYU-Duke volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:05 am
by Dr Moore
I see #StandWithRachelRichardaon is trending. Volleyball clubs around the country are wearing black and posting team photos tagged on social.
Seems it doesn’t matter if Rachel heard something from all the “cou—garrs” in the crowd. Really doesn’t matter.
BYU has made its own bad luck by sticking to church-imposed contradictory messages on social progress.
Re: Possible explanation for the BYU-Duke volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:05 am
by Res Ipsa
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:33 am
The latest from the Trib re: incidents at the U:
The U. notes that there have been four racist incidents on campus in the past year. That also includes a bomb threat at the school’s Black Cultural Center in January, as well as two students who reportedly shouted a racist slur at a worker as he delivered a delivery to a loading dock in the dormitories in September.
I’m starting to think this isn’t just a BYU thing here in Utah …
- Doc
Well that sucks.
Re: Possible explanation for the BYU-Duke volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:50 pm
by Dwight
I agree I think she heard what she perceived as a racial slur, even if that wasn't what came out of any one person's mouth. See the Rockies and Dinger incident. I think it's gotten blown up. I also think there is no self reflection for BYU fans about how they have a reputation for being bad fans. This extends to Utahns and Mormons in general. Utah Jazz fans have a reputation for being the worst in the NBA. At least other teams/college fans have the crutch of blaming alcohol, but Mormons prove you don't need to have alcohol to have fun, or be abusive.
On my mission I think shortly before I got there the mission president was considering banning basketball on P day. It was causing too many injuries and problems. It was still going to be okay to play pick up games, just as long as it wasn't church ball with other missionaries. The threat got through though and and things cleaned up real quick. They knew if it got banned there wasn't much hope for breaking the rules without the mission president catching wind.
Re: Possible explanation for the BYU-Duke volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:08 pm
by Dr Moore
Dwight wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:50 pm
I agree I think she heard what she perceived as a racial slur, even if that wasn't what came out of any one person's mouth. See the Rockies and Dinger incident. I think it's gotten blown up. I also think there is no self reflection for BYU fans about how they have a reputation for being bad fans. This extends to Utahns and Mormons in general. Utah Jazz fans have a reputation for being the worst in the NBA. At least other teams/college fans have the crutch of blaming alcohol, but Mormons prove you don't need to have alcohol to have fun, or be abusive.
Great points. For this reason it would be unfair for anyone to label this a hoax or false accusation. It’s just part of growing up, institutionally, and BYU - as an extension of the church - has a lot of growing up to do.
Re: Possible explanation for the BYU-Duke volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:34 pm
by BeNotDeceived
Haven't clicked on any of the links in this thread but has anyone considered this whole story might have to do with bringing to light the fact that racial prejudice is still alive and well inside the LDS church and that they're trying to draw attention to the fact that it is still in canonized scripture that black skin is a curse from God?
Re: Possible explanation for the BYU-Duke volleyball game mystery slur
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:31 pm
by Moksha
That was a very informative article.
Maybe she heard someone yelling, "Bednar!"