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msnobody wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:28 pm

An excerpt from the book I just finished reading:

"Until now, I had no idea that the bondage he was speaking of was encapsulated in a tiny business-sized card that I had carried in my pocket. Prior to being freed in Christ, the Church held me captive by my sin. In order to attain God's forgiveness, I had to keep repenting of my sins to my religious leaders and fulfill whatever they required of me to find penitence. In this way I have been a slave to the Church. Through the liberating truth contained in God's Word, I had now been unshackled and freed from that bondage by Christ's blood. All that held me to this religion, then, was this small piece of paper that I now knew represented by indentured servitude to the Church.
With this understanding, I willingly placed the card in President's hand." Passport to Heaven-- Micah Wilder

This so reminds me of Deuteronomy 7:6-8 but it was because the LORD loves you... that the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you

It is amazing the things that have such a stonghold on our lives and we often are not even aware.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:44 pm

msnobody wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:28 pm

An excerpt from the book I just finished reading:

"Until now, I had no idea that the bondage he was speaking of was encapsulated in a tiny business-sized card that I had carried in my pocket. Prior to being freed in Christ, the Church held me captive by my sin. In order to attain God's forgiveness, I had to keep repenting of my sins to my religious leaders and fulfill whatever they required of me to find penitence. In this way I have been a slave to the Church. Through the liberating truth contained in God's Word, I had now been unshackled and freed from that bondage by Christ's blood. All that held me to this religion, then, was this small piece of paper that I now knew represented by indentured servitude to the Church.
With this understanding, I willingly placed the card in President's hand." Passport to Heaven-- Micah Wilder

This so reminds me of Deuteronomy 7:6-8 but it was because the LORD loves you... that the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you

It is amazing the things that have such a stonghold on our lives and we often are not even aware.

Imagine the freedom you’ll have when you realize you don’t need a god to forgive you, either. You’re condemned to be free, as Sartre would say, and you don’t need to keep Jehovah in your pocket to know your own worth or figure out your values.

- Doc

msnobody wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:24 pm

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:44 pm

Imagine the freedom you’ll have when you realize you don’t need a god to forgive you, either. You’re condemned to be free, as Sartre would say, and you don’t need to keep Jehovah in your pocket to know your own worth or figure out your values.

- Doc

He showed me who I was and I didn’t want that. I wanted what I saw in Him.

msnobody wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:28 pm

An excerpt from the book I just finished reading:

"Until now, I had no idea that the bondage he was speaking of was encapsulated in a tiny business-sized card that I had carried in my pocket. Prior to being freed in Christ, the Church held me captive by my sin. In order to attain God's forgiveness, I had to keep repenting of my sins to my religious leaders and fulfill whatever they required of me to find penitence. In this way I have been a slave to the Church. Through the liberating truth contained in God's Word, I had now been unshackled and freed from that bondage by Christ's blood. All that held me to this religion, then, was this small piece of paper that I now knew represented by indentured servitude to the Church.
With this understanding, I willingly placed the card in President's hand." Passport to Heaven-- Micah Wilder

This so reminds me of Deuteronomy 7:6-8 but it was because the LORD loves you... that the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you

It is amazing the things that have such a stonghold on our lives and we often are not even aware.

dastardly stem wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:29 pm

msnobody wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:28 pm

An excerpt from the book I just finished reading:

"Until now, I had no idea that the bondage he was speaking of was encapsulated in a tiny business-sized card that I had carried in my pocket. Prior to being freed in Christ, the Church held me captive by my sin. In order to attain God's forgiveness, I had to keep repenting of my sins to my religious leaders and fulfill whatever they required of me to find penitence. In this way I have been a slave to the Church. Through the liberating truth contained in God's Word, I had now been unshackled and freed from that bondage by Christ's blood. All that held me to this religion, then, was this small piece of paper that I now knew represented by indentured servitude to the Church.
With this understanding, I willingly placed the card in President's hand." Passport to Heaven-- Micah Wilder

This so reminds me of Deuteronomy 7:6-8 but it was because the LORD loves you... that the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you

It is amazing the things that have such a stonghold on our lives and we often are not even aware.

So is he stuck serving God or not? He didn't think the Mormon Church was God's church but he's still stuck, shackled to the notion of having to be a slave to God, no? It may feel different to him, but it may be nothing but more of the same.

msnobody wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:36 pm

dastardly stem wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:29 pm

So is he stuck serving God or not? He didn't think the Mormon Church was God's church but he's still stuck, shackled to the notion of having to be a slave to God, no? It may feel different to him, but it may be nothing but more of the same.

If you're near SLC or Joseph UT, you can ask him yourself on 9/11/2022. https://www.adamsroadministry.com/piano ... y-calendar
I'm sure he would say he doesn't consider himself stuck, and not more of the same.