How many true believing, active members of the LDS/Mormon church are there worldwide?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:44 pm
(First time user/poster: nervous due to the high regard I have for this community. Here goes.)
How useful would having a reliable, thorough estimate of this current number, as well as forecasts of future numbers -backed up by a rigorous methodology rooted in a statistical and scientific analysis- be to “the cause” and/or this particular audience in this online community? (“the cause” in this context, let’s say, is to expose the sordid yellow underbelly of the LDS/Mormon church to the public and esp make this information available to the deluded faithful when they are ready for it?).
I’d propose a white paper produced quarterly via rigorous methodology in the vein of what The Widows Mite has provided to readers to expose so called church finances would be extremely useful and powerful via the leverage of knowledge it would provide. The so called church actively hides/protects these numbers with an intensity perhaps only rivaled by their secrecy of institutional finances. Seems obvious, then, that the grifting leaders/executives and their horrifically corrupt institution have a lot to lose if the real numbers were known/estimated with as much piercing accuracy/precision as possible, and distributed as widely as possible; and humanity/civilization would have a lot to gain?
If not very useful why not? If useful, why?
If you are interested and believe it’d be useful/worthwhile, please let me know and let’s make an effort to pool/coordinate our time, talents (and give our lives and everything we may possess…j/k) towards producing and disseminating a white paper like this.
What are the numbers you’ve come up with currently? Would you also please share at least a little about how you arrived at (esp data and sources used) your estimate?
My estimates:
2,000,000-4,000,000, based on data accrued from posts and the information in external links posted to the ExMo Reddit sub over the last approximately 2.8 years. It wouldn’t be too difficult (and it’ll be worth the effort to me if anyone were to request it) to locate/identify/communicate the majority of the specific sources of data, and data, used in arriving at these numbers. Let me know if anyone out there is interested in this additional level of information and I’ll drill down into the posts I’ve riffed off of in my calcs and provide this additional information to you.
I’ve been running these numbers since Jan 2020 when I first answered in the affirmative to the question “if it didn’t turn out to in fact be true, would I want to know?” These are speculation on my part, of course, though I’ll submit my professional role in real life is that of professional estimator of costs to run major programs/projects (in the $Billions) -and prospective projects- and provide my analyses of the current data for forecasting decisions and risk control based on macro and micro economic/finance data, for a large well established corporation.
Based on all the data/input I’ve been able to locate and use to crunch these numbers: I’m estimating there are only between 2 million (this min is generous) and 4 million (and this max is being very very generous) members worldwide who are truly active, ie engaged, all in, believing members who are consistently practicing and paying 10% without fail (and honestly in compliance with the Spirit and Letter of the tithing req.s) on their gross yearly income and wearing out/giving their entire life -and in full accordance with the temple blood oaths- to the one true cult.
How useful would having a reliable, thorough estimate of this current number, as well as forecasts of future numbers -backed up by a rigorous methodology rooted in a statistical and scientific analysis- be to “the cause” and/or this particular audience in this online community? (“the cause” in this context, let’s say, is to expose the sordid yellow underbelly of the LDS/Mormon church to the public and esp make this information available to the deluded faithful when they are ready for it?).
I’d propose a white paper produced quarterly via rigorous methodology in the vein of what The Widows Mite has provided to readers to expose so called church finances would be extremely useful and powerful via the leverage of knowledge it would provide. The so called church actively hides/protects these numbers with an intensity perhaps only rivaled by their secrecy of institutional finances. Seems obvious, then, that the grifting leaders/executives and their horrifically corrupt institution have a lot to lose if the real numbers were known/estimated with as much piercing accuracy/precision as possible, and distributed as widely as possible; and humanity/civilization would have a lot to gain?
If not very useful why not? If useful, why?
If you are interested and believe it’d be useful/worthwhile, please let me know and let’s make an effort to pool/coordinate our time, talents (and give our lives and everything we may possess…j/k) towards producing and disseminating a white paper like this.
What are the numbers you’ve come up with currently? Would you also please share at least a little about how you arrived at (esp data and sources used) your estimate?
My estimates:
2,000,000-4,000,000, based on data accrued from posts and the information in external links posted to the ExMo Reddit sub over the last approximately 2.8 years. It wouldn’t be too difficult (and it’ll be worth the effort to me if anyone were to request it) to locate/identify/communicate the majority of the specific sources of data, and data, used in arriving at these numbers. Let me know if anyone out there is interested in this additional level of information and I’ll drill down into the posts I’ve riffed off of in my calcs and provide this additional information to you.
I’ve been running these numbers since Jan 2020 when I first answered in the affirmative to the question “if it didn’t turn out to in fact be true, would I want to know?” These are speculation on my part, of course, though I’ll submit my professional role in real life is that of professional estimator of costs to run major programs/projects (in the $Billions) -and prospective projects- and provide my analyses of the current data for forecasting decisions and risk control based on macro and micro economic/finance data, for a large well established corporation.
Based on all the data/input I’ve been able to locate and use to crunch these numbers: I’m estimating there are only between 2 million (this min is generous) and 4 million (and this max is being very very generous) members worldwide who are truly active, ie engaged, all in, believing members who are consistently practicing and paying 10% without fail (and honestly in compliance with the Spirit and Letter of the tithing req.s) on their gross yearly income and wearing out/giving their entire life -and in full accordance with the temple blood oaths- to the one true cult.