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Elder Soares doesn't seem to understand the term Patriarchy
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:55 am
by IHAQ
It is important to observe that the government in the family follows the patriarchal pattern, differing in some respects from priesthood leadership in the Church.18 The patriarchal pattern entails that wives and husbands are accountable directly to God for the fulfillment of their sacred responsibilities in the family. It calls for a full partnership—a willing compliance with every principle of righteousness and accountability—and provides opportunities for development within an environment of love and mutual helpfulness.19 These special responsibilities do not imply hierarchy and absolutely exclude any kind of abuse or improper use of authority.
https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... s?lang=eng
My understanding of a patriarchy is "Patriarchy is a social system in which positions of dominance and privilege are primarily held by men." Is there a different definition of Patriarchy with which which I'm unfamiliar?
Re: Elder Shares doesn't seem to understand the term Patriarchy
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:08 am
by drumdude
God told them to change the temple ordinance from "wives obey their husbands who obey God" to "husbands and wives obey God."
So the patriarchy problem was fixed and doesn't exist anymore. Please stop complaining about it and just accept that we defined everything away.
Re: Elder Soares doesn't seem to understand the term Patriarchy
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:06 pm
by Kishkumen
The patriarchal order is an LDS concept, so it can have a uniquely LDS meaning that changes as the LDS Church and its teachings evolve. It is not that they don’t understand what someone else’s terminology means. They just have their own doctrinal view of patriarchal priesthood that exists separate from the ideological fixation on “the patriarchy.”
Re: Elder Soares doesn't seem to understand the term Patriarchy
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:07 pm
by Rollo Redux
So long as the father “presides” in the home (per the Proclamation on the Family) there can never be real equality between husband and wife, no matter how the Brethren may try to spin the word.
Re: Elder Soares doesn't seem to understand the term Patriarchy
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:14 pm
by Kishkumen
Rollo Redux wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:07 pm
So long as the father “presides” in the home (per the Proclamation on the Family) there can never be real equality between husband and wife, no matter how the Brethren may try to spin the word.
The Proclamation blows chunks.
Re: Elder Soares doesn't seem to understand the term Patriarchy
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:35 pm
by consiglieri
I think Elder Soares won this Conference’s Gaslighting Award