These are not limitations on God. Unless you are suggesting that God do the impossible and/or disrupt the plan for mankind in which agency reigns paramount.Marcus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:19 amHow are your rules not also "limitations on God"??...you want to place limitations on God and how he works in the world. Setting those limitations and ‘dying by the sword’ defending your dogmatic requirements...
Recall we are talking about how to stop sexual abuse within church settings. Arguing the problem boils down to something like "bureaucratic inertia" is bizarre.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:15 amSomething things that ought to be said at this point.
I think:
1) It is rather obvious that God gives a LOT of latitude to human beings. Sometimes human beings, including religious leaders, don’t always meet up to God’s expectations.
1.5) That is what the atonement of Jesus Christ is for. He will make everything right. He will right every wrong that human beings inflict upon each other.
2) Large organizations are not always going to do the right thing at the right time because of what might be referred to as bureaucratic inertia.
2.5) Change may be slow as a result.
3) God, knowing the end from the beginning has fail safe mechanisms along the way to bring things to a more perfect state of equilibrium and righteousness.
3.5) That can be a slow process when free agent human beings are involved.
4) We have a natural urge to tell God how to do things. When he doesn’t do things our way we get pissed....
Marcus, in the last post I made responding to you I know I was very tactful and straightforward. I don’t apologize for that.
Sometimes a spade needs to be called a spade. You appear, at least to me, to be VERY brittle and unbending in looking at possibilities that disrupt your personal ‘flow’. It’s somewhat maddening.
My guess is that others have seen this trait expressed also but will not say anything because your position on most things dovetails with theirs. So they put up with your shenanigans.
It is what it is.
I would prefer to not spend any more time with you on this thread or any other recent thread where you’ve basically come in for the purpose to derail or set up a strawman.
Thanks.
Regards,
MG
P.S. yes, bureaucratic inertia is a thing. It’s not “bizarre”.
Good day.