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Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:47 pm
by Moksha
drumdude wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:00 pm
Moksha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:39 pm
Did you listen to RFM's latest vlog about the lawsuit?
The judge isn't going to listen to his vlog.
No, I meant watching RFM's Vlog in order to be an effective member of the Shade's jury. RFM carefully lays out the Open Stories grievances and discusses the evidence to meet their burden of proof.
JPatterson resorts to accusations of homosexuality in order to poison a potential jury by appealing to the conditioned LDS response to homosexuals. RFM can effectively counter this by offering them sugary snacks.
Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:04 pm
by drumdude
Moksha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:47 pm
drumdude wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:00 pm
The judge isn't going to listen to his vlog.
No, I meant watching RFM's Vlog in order to be an effective member of the Shade's jury. RFM carefully lays out the Open Stories grievances and discusses the evidence to meet their burden of proof.
JPatterson resorts to accusations of homosexuality in order to poison a potential jury by appealing to the conditioned LDS response to homosexuals. RFM can effectively counter this by offering them sugary snacks.
I listened to almost all of the recorded meeting. I want my two hours back. This thing is way less exciting than the rosebud debacle.
Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:15 pm
by Moksha
Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:40 pm
by dastardly stem
I’m not giving this much credence. But I didn’t listen to Kamp nor the whole of rfms podcast. I didn’t realize he followed it up with evidence supporting John’s accusations (i think that’s what Moksha said). But it does make me wonder, how many people have worked for John? Rosebud, Kamp, jpatterson, kristi money, that co host lady who left citing artistic differences (?) or something like that, somebody named Maven who someone said John wasn’t pleased with. I don’t know who else. Obviously I haven’t paid enough attention. Seems like Dehlin causes tragedy? Maybe we can say He likes to go after people who speak out against him? Is he taking notes from the lds church to further his business interests? Probably not. Whatever the case he certainly still has supporters and ardent defenders. So it’s all a toss up from my perspective.
Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:52 pm
by Kishkumen
drumdude wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:19 pm
I wonder why John keeps hiring women like that.
Given the history with Rosebud…
Oh and in case anyone missed it even Maven was falling short of John’s expectations. Maven is who John and Jenn were to meet that day they blew up.
Really? I thought Maven did more work with Bill and RFM! I know she does some stuff for MoSto. I was not aware that John Dehlin had any problem with Maven. Maybe John Dehlin is just a difficult person to work with? Could be!
And the answer to that problem is: don’t work with him.
Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:55 pm
by Kishkumen
dastardly stem wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:40 pm
I’m not giving this much credence. But I didn’t listen to Kamp nor the whole of rfms podcast. I didn’t realize he followed it up with evidence supporting John’s accusations (i think that’s what Moksha said). But it does make me wonder, how many people have worked for John? Rosebud, Kamp, jpatterson, kristi money, that co host lady who left citing artistic differences (?) or something like that, somebody named Maven who someone said John wasn’t pleased with. I don’t know who else. Obviously I haven’t paid enough attention. Seems like Dehlin causes tragedy? Maybe we can say He likes to go after people who speak out against him? Is he taking notes from the lds church to further his business interests? Probably not. Whatever the case he certainly still has supporters and ardent defenders. So it’s all a toss up from my perspective.
Several conclusions I draw from watching all of this:
Don’t work for John Dehlin.
Don’t work in the Mo/Ex-Mo-mediasphere.
Avoid litigation as much as humanly possible.
Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:12 am
by dastardly stem
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:55 pm
dastardly stem wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:40 pm
I’m not giving this much credence. But I didn’t listen to Kamp nor the whole of rfms podcast. I didn’t realize he followed it up with evidence supporting John’s accusations (i think that’s what Moksha said). But it does make me wonder, how many people have worked for John? Rosebud, Kamp, jpatterson, kristi money, that co host lady who left citing artistic differences (?) or something like that, somebody named Maven who someone said John wasn’t pleased with. I don’t know who else. Obviously I haven’t paid enough attention. Seems like Dehlin causes tragedy? Maybe we can say He likes to go after people who speak out against him? Is he taking notes from the lds church to further his business interests? Probably not. Whatever the case he certainly still has supporters and ardent defenders. So it’s all a toss up from my perspective.
Several conclusions I draw from watching all of this:
Don’t work for John Dehlin.
Don’t work in the Mo/Ex-Mo-mediasphere.
Avoid litigation as much as humanly possible.
Yeah I don’t recall anyone who had such a small cadre of former employees and from that population there happens to be a large percentage who hold long drawn out vendettas against them. The numbers alone don’t look good. Poor guy. Sounds like he needs extra love and devotion from his fawning audience and fans.
Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:29 am
by The Stig
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:55 pm
Avoid litigation as much as humanly possible.
Now, now, don't put me out of business.
Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:31 am
by Kishkumen
The Stig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:29 am
Now, now, don't put me out of business.
Merely advice for myself and anyone tempted to sue me.
Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:39 am
by Dr Exiled
The Stig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:29 am
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:55 pm
Avoid litigation as much as humanly possible.
Now, now, don't put me out of business.
One senses an asset protection attorney is needed to protect assets from litigation risk?