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When on gets away from the usual Bible passage in the Sermon on the Mount, etc. one can find some horrible gems:

Numbers 31:17-18
New International Version
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Deuteronomy 23:1. “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.”

She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Ezekiel 23:20

What is your favourite Bible gem?

We discussed this one here several years ago:

"Moreover I gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not have life; and I defiled them through their very gifts in making them offer by fire all their first-born, that I might horrify them; I did it that they might know that I am the Lord." Ezekiel 20:25-26 (RSV)

hauslern wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:46 am

When on gets away from the usual Bible passage in the Sermon on the Mount, etc. one can find some horrible gems:

When one sticks to the Bible passage in the Sermon on the Mount one can find horrible gems. Imagine being a believer your whole life--doing all you can in your ignorance and hope. Then when the end comes Jesus coldly looks you up and down and says "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

If god loves humanity why does he ignore and hate so many? That's pretty strange. The Sermon is a big old silly hoax designed, it seems, to shame people and keep them down. No one knows if God loves them. They interpret feelings of love they get as if that is God and unknown super thingy telling them they are loved.

Well, a little applied type Morm apologetics can easily sort this all out. Like -

God was speaking as a man. - Donkey/Tapir balls are a delicacy in Hagoth's Hawaii. - He didn't mean cook the first kid until his skin was black, he meant their clothes only.

D&C count?

1 There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones—

2 For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

3 Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory.

4 When a messenger comes saying he has a message from God, offer him your hand and request him to shake hands with you.

5 If he be an angel he will do so, and you will feel his hand.

6 If he be the spirit of a just man made perfect he will come in his glory; for that is the only way he can appear—

7 Ask him to shake hands with you, but he will not move, because it is contrary to the order of heaven for a just man to deceived; but he will still deliver his message.

8 If it be the devil as an angel of light, when you ask him to shake hands he will offer you his hand, and you will not feel anything; you may therefore detect him.

9 These are three grand keys whereby you may know whether any administration is from God.

D&C 129

Gen 19 wherein Lot proves he's the good guy in Sodom because he protects the angels from a sex crazed mob by...oh wait offering his two chaste daughters over to the rape mob to satisfy their lust. And from there it gets even more bat crap when his two daughters, who survived the destruction of Sodom, immediately get their dad Lot drunk and sleep with him in order to produce children because there isn't any other man in that particular cave.

Thus giving inspiration to many porn writers who want to reach to stars.

hauslern wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:46 am

When on gets away from the usual Bible passage in the Sermon on the Mount, etc. one can find some horrible gems:

Numbers 31:17-18
New International Version
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Deuteronomy 23:1. “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.”

She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Ezekiel 23:20

What is your favourite Bible gem?

I guess Ezekiel's colorful political speech is not studied in children's Sunday school.

I wonder how far Ezekiel's comment about bad laws extends. I can think of a few bad laws beyond the focus in the verse Bret posted.

That whole preparation for conquest story sounds more like a fiction of dubious wisdom. Just like that conquest destruction story that is fiction.

Mine is Judges 19.

It starts off with a Levite living in the hills of Ephraim who takes a second wife (i.e. concubine) from the town of Bethlehem. For some reason, this second wife becomes unhappy with her husband and skips town, returning to her father’s home where she stays for four months. Eventually the Levite takes a servant and two donkeys on the road with him to fetch his wayward second wife. When he arrives at Bethlehem, his father-in-law greets him warmly and they feast. The Levite and his second wife reconcile and she agrees to leave her father’s house and return to the hills of Ephraim.

On the journey back, the Levite’s servant suggests they stay at a Non-Israelite town called Jebus, but the Levite disregards the suggestion and deliberately picks the settlement of Gibeah, which belonged to the tribe of Benjamin. The Levite and his party are essentially ignored until a kind stranger takes them in before nightfall and shows them the usual gracious hospitality.

Things take a Lot and Gomorrah turn when a crowd assemblies outside the host’s home whereby demands are made for the strangers to be brought out so they can be raped. The host makes attempts to offer up his own virginal daughters as potential victims of gang rape, but the crowd is insistent that it is the outsiders get raped. The Levite seizes on the opportunity to muscle his second wife outside and she is viciously gang raped throughout the night; she is able to get herself to the entrance of the host’s home before collapsing and dying.

The Levite collects his second wife, throws her over a donkey and makes his return journey home. Once there, the Levite takes a knife and carves his dead wife/concubine up into 12 parts that he then sends to each of the 12 tribes that make up Israel and kicks off a civil war that reaches its conclusion in chapter 21.

In ancient Greece, strangers in need of succor find themselves getting eaten, but in Israel, they get gang raped.

The world is a strange place; both ancient and modern.

Don't get on Jesus's bad side:

"I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another’s flesh because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them." Jeremiah 19:9

"Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." Psalm 137:9

Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:42 pm

Don't get on Jesus's bad side:

"I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another’s flesh because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them." Jeremiah 19:9

"Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." Psalm 137:9

Psalm 137 is by a person taken captive to Babylon who wishes that what their family suffered under Babylon would happen to the Babylonians in return. Perhaps not the nicest sentiment but one that it takes real effort not to understand. Perhaps referring to Jesus bad side accomplishes complete misunderstanding.