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How many men do you guys know in today’s church who are sealed to multiple wives? Is this a common practice among all LDS widowers who remarry, or is it mainly practiced among the leadership of the LDS church?

Do LDS widowers and widows commonly marry civilly after their spouses die, and forgo sealing so that they won’t be practicing polygamy in the afterlife?

The LDS church tries its best to hide the fact that all of this still goes on, so there’s not a ton of information about the LDS’s modern continuing practice of spiritual wifery.

It’s covered in the handbook. As per usual, men are treated differently to women…

Women. If a husband and wife have been sealed and the husband dies, the woman may not be sealed to another man unless she receives a cancellation of the first sealing (see 38.4.1.4).

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... e_number22

Men. If a husband and wife have been sealed and the wife dies, the man may be sealed to another woman if she is not already sealed to another man. In this circumstance, the man does not need a sealing clearance from the First Presidency

If it merits coverage in the handbook then it’s not rare.

IHAQ wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:25 pm

If it merits coverage in the handbook then it’s not rare.

I just can't imagine so many LDS women being ok with a very large possibility that they will be sharing their spouse with a complete stranger in the afterlife.

It is common in my small part of the Mormon world for priesthood holders to proclaim they could see it coming back in their life time, and they would be willing to take part in it. I'm not quite sure what their current wife thinks about it, but my bet is a few of the wives would gladly pass these "worthy priesthood holders" on to a sister wife. It is always baffling to me how/why these guys can be so cavalier about this attitude. I am all for consenting adults living life how they see fit when it comes to love, but the way Mormon's are about gender roles, I just don't think it is a good idea.

I have noticed that if someone, especially the husband becomes a widower, it is not uncommon for him to be remarried in less than year, sometimes in as few as 6 months. I can't imagine moving on so quickly if I were that situation.

If you’re a temple worthy widower, who was sealed to a deceased spouse, and you remarry to a temple worth second wife, I think the chances of a temple sealing approach 100%. If not expressly considered and accepted, I think the theological implications of afterlife polygamy are either ignored or are a “shelf” item.

drumdude wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:26 am

IHAQ wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:25 pm

If it merits coverage in the handbook then it’s not rare.

I just can't imagine so many LDS women being ok with a very large possibility that they will be sharing their spouse with a complete stranger in the afterlife.

What if the two celestial wives are not strangers to each other?

I know a man whose (now ex-)wife used to pre-select potential second+ wives for him to be sealed to if she pre-deceased him.

toon wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:44 am

If you’re a temple worthy widower, who was sealed to a deceased spouse, and you remarry to a temple worth second wife, I think the chances of a temple sealing approach 100%. If not expressly considered and accepted, I think the theological implications of afterlife polygamy are either ignored or are a “shelf” item.

Or not. After i left the lds church and divorced my lds husband, he remarried. Because i didn't remove my records his new wife became his "second" wife.

After maybe 30 years out of the lds church, soneone forged my signature on a request to have my records removed. After investigating a bit, i have come to the conclusion that the forgery was the act of my ex's "second wife" who could not bear tbe thought of a future eternity where she would never be the "first wife." Getting my records removed overturned the sealing and secured her first wife spot.

Marcus wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:43 am

toon wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:44 am

If you’re a temple worthy widower, who was sealed to a deceased spouse, and you remarry to a temple worth second wife, I think the chances of a temple sealing approach 100%. If not expressly considered and accepted, I think the theological implications of afterlife polygamy are either ignored or are a “shelf” item.

Or not. After i left the lds church and divorced my lds husband, he remarried. Because i didn't remove my records his new wife became his "second" wife.

After maybe 30 years out of the lds church, soneone forged my signature on a request to have my records removed. After investigating a bit, i have come to the conclusion that the forgery was the act of my ex's "second wife" who could not bear tbe thought of a future eternity where she would never be the "first wife." Getting my records removed overturned the sealing and secured her first wife spot.

In LDS theology, I believe what she did counts as spiritual murder. Wouldn’t it? Is there a doctrine for this, damning someone’s soul by lying? I guess this is where the books in heaven would Trump the books on earth, but what consequence for her willingness to murder your soul in service of her personal vanity? Isn’t that basically the same thing as physical murder?

Dr Moore wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:18 am

Marcus wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:43 am

Or not. After i left the lds church and divorced my lds husband, he remarried. Because i didn't remove my records his new wife became his "second" wife.

After maybe 30 years out of the lds church, soneone forged my signature on a request to have my records removed. After investigating a bit, i have come to the conclusion that the forgery was the act of my ex's "second wife" who could not bear tbe thought of a future eternity where she would never be the "first wife." Getting my records removed overturned the sealing and secured her first wife spot.

In LDS theology, I believe what she did counts as spiritual murder. Wouldn’t it? Is there a doctrine for this, damning someone’s soul by lying? I guess this is where the books in heaven would Trump the books on earth, but what consequence for her willingness to murder your soul in service of her personal vanity? Isn’t that basically the same thing as physical murder?

That’s the great irony. She takes it so seriously as to forge Marcus’ signature to guarantee something in the afterlife. But not so seriously to imagine the consequences to Marcus of doing that in the same afterlife…

drumdude wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:26 am

IHAQ wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:25 pm

If it merits coverage in the handbook then it’s not rare.

I just can't imagine so many LDS women being ok with a very large possibility that they will be sharing their spouse with a complete stranger in the afterlife.

I have a friend who’s spouse explained to him… “Practicing plural marriage in the next life will be a choice. And you will be choosing not to.”