Colorado shooting suspect appears to be LDS

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So basically, some crazy welfare queen and an absentee father get a no fault divorce and raise a crazy kid that commits an unspeakable crime. And in response the media uses this as an opportunity to bludgeon and blame anyone who believes that marriage means one man/one woman, don't want their grade school age kids indoctrinated in homosexuality, thinks transgender athletes shouldn't be competing in women's sports, and that American citizens should be able to legally own firearm for self defense.

The suspect in the mass shooting at an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado had a tumultuous upbringing in which he was bullied as a teenager and raised for a time by his grandmother, according to an emerging portrait of the alleged gunman pieced together by CNN.

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Anderson Lee Aldrich ended up in the care of his grandmother as his mother struggled with a string of arrests and related mental health evaluations, according to court records and an interview with a family member. 

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The suspect’s grandmother, who a relative described as his primary caretaker, declined to be interviewed by CNN.

Aldrich’s relationship with his mother appeared volatile last year when she called police on her son and said he threatened to harm her with a homemade bomb and other weapons. 

No charges were filed, and the case has since been sealed, leaving unanswered questions about how Aldrich avoided prosecution in a matter that may ultimately have prohibited him from legally possessing a weapon if convicted.

A little over a year after the bomb threat incident, Aldrich allegedly opened fire at Club Q in Colorado Springs, killing five people and leaving more than a dozen injured. Aldrich, 22, faces five counts of first-degree murder and five counts of a bias-motivated crime causing bodily injury, according to an online docket in the El Paso County Court. The 6’4”, 260-pound suspect had been in the hospital for treatment of undisclosed injuries after he was subdued by club patrons during the attack.

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Aldrich was born in May of 2000 under the name Nicholas Brink, and is the son of Laura Voepel and Aaron Brink, who married in 1999. Neither parent could be reached for comment. His father filed for divorce in September 2001 in Orange County, California, citing irreconcilable differences. In his initial petition, he requested legal custody and visitation rights but asked that the court grant full physical custody to Voepel. Voepel stated in a 2007 filing that her son had had no contact with his father.

Aldrich’s father was a mixed martial arts fighter and a porn actor who spent time in federal prison for illegally importing marijuana, according to court documents, interviews, and an entertainment website. 

About a year before Aldrich was born, Brink pleaded guilty in 1999 to a misdemeanor domestic battery charge and received a suspended sentence, according to the San Diego County Superior Court. Federal court records state that the victim in that case was Voepel, who was described as his girlfriend. 

Voepel, the daughter of California Assemblyman Randy Voepel, was granted sole legal and physical custody of her son in 2007. In May of that year, Voepel stated in court records that she was unemployed and engaged with a new baby on the way, in addition to Aldrich, who was six years old at the time.  

In 2009, Aldrich’s mother received three years of probation for convictions of public intoxication and falsely reporting a crime to police. The false report conviction stemmed from a 2008 incident in Murrieta, California in which police responded to a reported home invasion and found Voepel lying on her bed with her hands and legs bound with duct tape. Voepel initially told police a man had put string around her neck, bound her with tape and placed a knife on her chest. She admitted the following day, however, that she had been under the influence of narcotics and fabricated the incident because “she was lonely and wanted attention,” a police report states.

In 2010, Voepel underwent court-ordered mental health treatment in Riverside County, California that stemmed from those cases, according to court records obtained by CNN.

The records show Voepel sought custody of her then-10-year-old son – the age Aldrich would have been at the time. A document filed later noted that Voepel said her son had begun living with her and that she planned to seek medical, welfare and food stamp assistance.

It was unclear during what periods Aldrich lived with his grandmother who, according to public records, maintained residences in the same areas where her daughter and grandson lived in California, Texas and Colorado. 

While in Texas, Aldrich’s mother continued to struggle with the law  and mental health issues. A relative who spoke to CNN on the condition of anonymity described Voepel as “sweet” but also as having a “tumultuous life.” 

In 2012, she allegedly used a lighter to start a fire in her room at the Baptist Medical Center in San Antonio, according to a police report. Voepel, who was rescued by a hospital staffer, initially denied setting the fire, but security footage showed that she was the only person in her room when the blaze began, according to the police report. 

A licensed psychologist concluded that she suffered from severe borderline personality disorder and alcohol dependence, among other issues, records show. According to court documents, she was originally charged with arson, but pleaded no contest to a reduced offense of criminal mischief in August 2013. She was sentenced to five years of community supervision. 

Following his mom’s struggles, Aldrich was apparently having troubles of his own with at least some of his peers. In 2015, he was the subject of an online bullying page on a parody website. The site, which resembles Wikipedia, has photos of Aldrich as a teenager and uses offensive slurs to mock his weight and accuse him of engaging in illegal activity. 

The site derided an apparent attempt by Aldrich’s grandmother to raise money for him to travel to Japan with classmates.  A screenshot of a fundraising appeal says “Make a dream come true for a young man who has survived many bad knocks over his young life.” The fundraising goal was not reached, according to the post. 

A history of revisions on the page shows that the bullying posts about him were updated several times over a five-month period in 2015. The page, which was first reported by the Washington Post, is still active. 

Later that same year, just before his 16th birthday, the teen legally changed his name from Nicholas F. Brink to Anderson Lee Aldrich. A reason for the name change, also first reported by The Post, was not given.

Aldrich later moved to Colorado Springs where he lived with his grandmother. His mother lived in a rented room in a house nearby. Last year, Aldrich livestreamed a video from his mother’s Facebook page purportedly showing himself inside that house during a stand-off with police in the wake of the alleged bomb threat.

Leslie Bowman, who owns the home where the standoff took place and where Aldrich’s mother had been renting a room, said she screen recorded the video, which has since been deleted, and provided it to CNN. 

The brief video shows a few seconds of an agitated young man – identified by Bowman as Aldrich – wearing a helmet and some type of body armor, and challenging law enforcement to breach the house where he had holed up. 

He ends the video with what seems like a message to law enforcement outside: “So, uh, go ahead and come on in, boys! Let’s f**king see it!”

The video does not actually show any officers outside the house and it’s not clear whether Aldrich had any weapons. 

The El Paso County Sheriff’s Office said in a news release at the time that Aldrich had threatened to harm his mother “with a homemade bomb, multiple weapons, and ammunition,” and that several nearby homes had been evacuated. 

Aldrich later surrendered to sheriff’s deputies, which was seen in other video footage previously reported by CNN. The sheriff’s office said no explosives were found in the house. 

It is not immediately clear how the bomb threat case was resolved, but the Colorado Springs Gazette reported that the district attorney’s office said no formal charges were pursued in the case. The district attorney’s office did not respond to a request for comment from CNN. 

CNN’s Melanie Hicken, Casey Tolan, Isabelle Chapman, Audrey Ash, Scott Bronstein, Nelli Black, Daniel A. Medina, Rob Kuznia and Bob Ortega contributed to this report.

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Hawkeye,

What was the point of your giant copy-paste?
media uses this as an opportunity to bludgeon and blame anyone who believes that marriage means one man/one woman
Can you point out from your material where the "media" did this?

As for the "crazies" out there, well guess what? There's going to be even more welfare queen kids now that abortions are illegal in states like yours.

Your gun rights nonsense is nonsense only punctuated by your own lack of gun ownership. But think about it: even if the ratio is as low as 1 crazy per 99 sane people, it still makes sense to get rid of guns altogether because the crazy person has the element of surprise. If the crazy person can get a gun -- and if it were up to Clarence Thomas, felons would have guns also -- then 99 sane people have to also get guns for protection. As you ease the laws so that more and more crazies get access, it's your own vile doing that seemingly forces you to buy guns for self protection (even though it usually doesn't work, which is probably why even though you're a raging hypocrite, you still have the good sense not to arm yourself).
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Hawkeye wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:02 pm
So basically, some crazy welfare queen and an absentee father get a no fault divorce and raise a crazy kid that commits an unspeakable crime. And in response the media uses this as an opportunity to bludgeon and blame anyone who believes that marriage means one man/one woman, don't want their grade school age kids indoctrinated in homosexuality, thinks transgender athletes shouldn't be competing in women's sports, and that American citizens should be able to legally own firearm for self defense.

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True. Since we’re just c&p’ing crap so we can gripe about political parties. The GOPedos will never stop grooming & molesting kids, women & men:

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence and Lawrence E. King, Jr. allegedly organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

George Nader, a 60-year-old former Trump advisor & Middle East specialist with close ties to the leaders of the United Arab Emirates, admitted to possessing child pornography and bringing an underage boy to the US for “commercial sex.”

Ralph Shortey, a former Republican state senator and former Trump chair in Oklahoma, was arrested in March 2017 after police found him in a suburban Oklahoma City motel room with a then-17-year-old boy, was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison Monday on a child sex trafficking charge.

Roy Moore... openly admitted to grooming teen girls for decades and was supported by Trump in 2017.

Joel Micah Greenberg, a former Republican tax collector of Seminole County, Florida, was arrested and charged with federal offenses in 2020. He was indicted on 33 criminal counts: theft, stalking, sex trafficking, cryptocurrency fraud, and Small Business Administration loan fraud.

Rep. Mary Miller of Illinois has hired a convicted sex offender who tried to lure an underage boy into a parking lot to perform sexual acts.

Former GOP lawmaker & Trump campaign co-chair Perry Hooper, 67, was arrested in August 2022 & charged with 1st degree sex abuse in Montgomery, Alabama.

Texas Right to Life forced pregnancy activist, Luke Bowen, was arrested on August 3, 2022 for trying to solicit a child for sex.

Former Republican Idaho State lawmaker Aaron von Ehlinger was convicted to 20 years of prison for raping a 19-year old legislative intern.

Former Republican US House speaker and serial child molester Dennis Hastert admitted in open court to molesting male students as a teacher and wrestling coach at Yorkville High School in suburban Chicago over 30 years ago. He was sentenced to 15 months in prison not for sexual assault, but the feds just happened to catch him withdrawing cash improperly to pay as hush money to one of his former victims.

Former state district court judge, a former leader in the Republican Party and a former chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign in Campbell County, Kentucky Tim Nolan was sentenced to 20 years in prison for sex trafficking, rape, witness tampering,

Former Republican House rep Mark Foley and anti gay activist solicited e-mails and sexually suggestive instant messages from teenaged boys who had formerly served as congressional pages. He also still makes donations to the Palm Beach Republicans. ()

South Dakota Senate candidate Joel Koskan has been charged with grooming & raping a family member.

Ex-GOP staffer and anti-abortion activist who made Trump ads, Ruben Verastigui pleaded guilty to charges of receiving hundreds of child sex abuse materials, including videos if babies being raped, and was sentenced to 12.5 years in prison.

Tennessee GOP representative David Byrd was accused by 3 women of sexually abusing them while he was their high school basketball coach. Instead of being removed from office, he was reelected and was made chairman of a key House state education subcommittee.

Tennessee GOP House rep John Rose has married a girl he had been grooming since she was 14.

Tim Mahoney, the Democrat who replaced Foley was then later involved himself in a scandal of sexual harassment and intimidation of Congressional pages.

Arizona GOP Community College Board candidate Randy Kaufman, who runs on a platform of protecting children from the progressive Left, was arrested by police for masturbating in front of a preschool.

Missouri House member Rick Roeber has physically & sexually abused 3 of 4 of his children in the 1990s.

Former Republican candidate for governor of Idaho Steven Pankey was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for the kidnapping & murder of 12-year old Colorado girl Jonelle Matthews in 1984.

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drumdude wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:40 am
“DCP” wrote: By now, you may be aware of the fact that Anderson Lee Aldrich, formerly known as Nicholas Brink, who assaulted Club Q in Colorado Springs a few days ago, is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

When a certain small population of online critics of the Church that I enjoy watching learned of his membership, they were overjoyed. They immediately blamed President Dallin H. Oaks and Elder Jeffrey R. Holland and even the late Elder Neal A. Maxwell. (Please see my Meridian Magazine article “Elder Holland: What They Heard is Not What He Said.”) One expressed his hope that President Oaks is “proud” of his role in the Colorado Springs atrocity and salivated at the prospect of a lawsuit by survivors against President Oaks and the Church. The Brethren, others suggested, should finally stop their preaching of hate and fear.

I’m going to go out on a limb here, though: The evidence doesn’t seem to suggest that Anderson Lee Aldrich is the kind of person whose life is governed by his careful reading of the words of the apostles and prophets:

Newsweek: “Colorado Suspect Anderson Aldrich’s Links to Mormon Church Explained”

MSN: “Mormon church confirms the Colorado Springs shooter was a member”

“LDS officials condemn nightclub shooting, say suspect was not active in church”

“Details are coming to light about the alleged gunman who killed five people at an LGBTQ nightclub”

The Washington Post: “LGBTQ club shooting suspect’s troubled past was obscured by a name change, records show: After suffering online bullying as a boy, Anderson Lee Aldrich altered his identity, documents confirm”
He wasn’t a *real* Mormon. He was just an *inflate the numbers* Mormon.
Who here was overjoyed?
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That's the great thing about not referencing you sources, even better, a god-directed rule that tells you not to reference your sources. You can lie and nobody will ever know.
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Let's see. A club full of people just out to enjoy themselves. Right wing politicians and media politicians demonizing those people over and over and over. Mentally unbalanced person goes into the club armed with an assault rifle, murdering five people and wounding many others with high velocity ammo that does unspeakable damage to the human body.

And Ajax is the victim.

SMH

ETA: It's actually a tactic that is used by abusers against their victims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO
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Report: Colorado Gay Nightclub Shooting Suspect Identifies as Non-Binary, Uses ‘They/Them’ Pronouns


Anderson Lee Aldrich, the suspect who allegedly shot and killed five people and wounded at least 18 others over the weekend at an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado, identifies as non-binary and uses “they/them” pronouns, according to a court filing on Tuesday night.

Aldrich, 22, is facing multiple murder and hate crime charges stemming from last weekend’s shooting.

However, Aldrich’s public defender revealed that Aldrich is “nonbinary” and uses “they/them pronouns,” the New York Times reported. In addition to the pronouns, Aldrich is referred to as “Mx. Aldrich” in the court filings.

“Anderson Aldrich is nonbinary,” a footnote in the filing states. “They use they/them pronouns, and for the purposes of all formal filings, will be addressed as Mx. Aldrich.”

The news about Aldrich’s gender identity came after Democrats and members of the corporate press politicized the shooting and blamed Republicans for the tragedy.

For example, NBC’s Ben Collins claimed that “Republican politicians” and the “internet’s far-right machine” targeted LGBTQ+ individuals in the months leading up to the nightclub shooting.

“But I think we have to have a come-to-Jesus moment here as reporters,” Collins told MSNBC. “Are we more afraid of being on Breitbart for saying that trans people deserve to be alive, or are we more afraid of the dead people? Because I’m more afraid of the dead people.”


Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) blasted Colorado Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert as a “bigot” who motivated the shooter shortly after Boebert issued a statement condemning the violence in her home state.

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Mourners stand along the makeshift memorial to the victims of a weekend mass shooting at a nearby gay nightclub on Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2022, in Colorado Springs, CO. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski)

“.@laurenboebert you have played a major role in elevating anti-LGBT+ hate rhetoric and anti-trans lies while spending your time in Congress blocking even the most common sense gun safety laws,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted. “You don’t get to ‘thoughts and prayers’ your way out of this. Look inward and change.”

“Dehumanizing rhetoric leads to dehumanizing actions, which quickly translates to violence, shootings, assaults, and worse,” Cortez added in an Instagram post about Boebert.

Aldrich is set to make a virtual court appearance from jail on Wednesday, the Denver Post reported.

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IHAQ wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:41 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:23 am


Which drag queen and what action did she take?
A father and a drag performer managed to subdue a gunman who opened fire at an LGBT nightclub in the US state of Colorado, it has emerged.
The attacker killed five people and left 17 others with injuries at Club Q in Colorado Springs on Saturday night.
Officials named the "heroes" who halted the attack as Richard Fierro and Thomas James, without detailing their actions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63698165
"One of the performers was walking by and I told her kick him," he said. "And she took her high heel and stuffed it in his face."
Mr Fierro said one of the dead included his daughter's boyfriend, 22-year-old Raymond Vance.
Colorado Springs Mayor John Suthers hailed the bystanders' "incredible act of heroism".
Retired U.S. Army Major Richard Fierro took the shooter down by pulling on his acu vest, while he had him down, he grabbed the shooter's pistol and began beating the shooter with it. Fierro ordered another bystander to kick the shooter in the face. A drag queen joined the effort by stomping him with her heels.

There were three people involved in taking down the shooter. The story you used above isn't entirely accurate. Had you used the link I provided on this thread, you would have seen that.

I realize that you are using this tragedy to criticize the LDS church. I realize that DCP is using the tragedy to counter criticism.

I encourage you not to lose sight of the fact that the deceased and injured are real people who live in a real town with real residents who are SICK over this. Everywhere I look on local news and social media, there is a consistent outcry. The people here and those involved don't give one single damn about the shooter's religious history. They care that human life was lost in our town and that the only thing the deceased and injured are guilty of is going out for a night of socializing and entertainment in a place that has been a feature of the town for 20 years, and one that they thought was a safe space for them. LGBTQ and straight alike.

All three persons who subdued the shooter are heroes. Every single person who was on the premises are victims of trauma including the heroes, some suffering loss beyond words, and all sensing the loss of their personal safety and security. Even though they are being offered free mental health services by some good and qualified people in the area, this town will likely never feel quite the same for them nor will it likely feel the same to those of us who are residents in this diverse community.

As for your criticism here:
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Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:54 am


I find it interesting that DCP writes in a way that dehumanises and minimises the senseless tragedy that cost 5 people their lives and many others were injured, saying simply it was an "assault on Club Q". No mention of the victims. No mention of the heroics from a drag queen that likely saved countless more lives.
I invite you to read your opening post again.
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Some damned Turbo Idiot wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:21 pm

Report: A straight guy killed a bunch of people in WalMart


You’d think you’d figure out guns are the problem, but you and your turd politics can’t seem to wrap your mind around it.

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Thanks Hawkeye,

Let's get this straight: you went on a rant and pasted a wall of text, and the wall of text had nothing to do with your accusations, and so you went looking for something that did? Do I have that right?

No better place than Breitbart:
For example, NBC’s Ben Collins claimed that “Republican politicians” and the “internet’s far-right machine” targeted LGBTQ+ individuals in the months leading up to the nightclub shooting.
Getting warmer, except that you haven't actually provided Collins actual words. Breitbart is doing an awful lot of filling in blanks here. Since all they have is this one example, you'd think they can provide an entire quote.

It seems to me that for an issue like this, we can count on the unhinged right to quickly blame the left for blaming the right before the left has actually blamed the right yet.
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