Tyler Livingston--Former FAIR Stalwart--Has Left the Church

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Re: Tyler Livingston--Former FAIR Stalwart--Has Left the Church

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:21 pm
I hope RFM or BYP get this guy as a guest on an upcoming show.
There should be a live roundtable discussion featuring reformed Mopologists!
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Re: Tyler Livingston--Former FAIR Stalwart--Has Left the Church

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:21 pm
I hope RFM or BYP get this guy as a guest on an upcoming show.
I definitely would enjoy having him on! I knew him very well actually, and stayed at his place overnight at one FAIR conference, and we had a blast talking late into the night. In some ways this surprises me, in other ways, not so much. I wish him WELL, it's a tough slog.
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Re: Tyler Livingston--Former FAIR Stalwart--Has Left the Church

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:11 pm
Livingston even directed the apologetic Book of Abraham film, A Most Remarkable Book: Evidence for the Divine Authenticity of the Book of Abraham, which is currently on sale at the FAIR website for the bargain price of $9.99, in case you need a stocking stuffer this holiday season.

Dr. Scratch, are you freaking nuts? Why pay for garbage when you can haul it away for free?

:D

The silly show is available here for free and there's no need for anyone to waste precious room in their Santa Clause stocking with a BS video on the Book of Abraham. Jesus H. Christ!

A Most Remarkable Book - Evidence for The Book of Abraham (full-length video) FREE!

Hey, Dr. Gee, kiss my Abrahamic ass! Come on over to Discuss Mormonism and defend the Book of Abraham you coward! I want to drill you a new hole. You're no match for Shulem. I will kick your ass, boy!

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Re: Tyler Livingston--Former FAIR Stalwart--Has Left the Church

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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:31 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:21 pm
I hope RFM or BYP get this guy as a guest on an upcoming show.
There should be a live roundtable discussion featuring reformed Mopologists!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tyler Livingston--Former FAIR Stalwart--Has Left the Church

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Shulem wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:17 am
Doctor Scratch wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:11 pm
Livingston even directed the apologetic Book of Abraham film, A Most Remarkable Book: Evidence for the Divine Authenticity of the Book of Abraham, which is currently on sale at the FAIR website for the bargain price of $9.99, in case you need a stocking stuffer this holiday season.

Dr. Scratch, are you freaking nuts? Why pay for garbage when you can haul it away for free?

:D

The silly show is available here for free and there's no need for anyone to waste precious room in their Santa Clause stocking with a BS video on the Book of Abraham. Jesus H. Christ!

A Most Remarkable Book - Evidence for The Book of Abraham (full-length video) FREE!

Hey, Dr. Gee, kiss my Abrahamic ass! Come on over to Discuss Mormonism and defend the Book of Abraham you coward! I want to drill you a new hole. You're no match for Shulem. I will kick your ass, boy!

:lol:
Makes ya wonder if he has secretly been reading these message boards and watching our videos on Book of Abraham. The evidence really is against the literal interpretation of Joseph Smith, at least Egyptologically.
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Re: Tyler Livingston--Former FAIR Stalwart--Has Left the Church

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Lol! Thanks, Shulem. I wonder how FAIR justifies charging money for this when they’ve already posted it to YouTube. Interesting to see Bokovoy and Kevin Barney in this movie. My, how time changes all things.
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Re: Tyler Livingston--Former FAIR Stalwart--Has Left the Church

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I said “Taylor” Livingston, you dollard!
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:28 am
Makes ya wonder if he has secretly been reading these message boards and watching our videos on Book of Abraham. The evidence really is against the literal interpretation of Joseph Smith, at least Egyptologically.

Oh, you can bet that Gee-baby pays mind to this board! He's also aware of your podcasts and especially the interviews with Ritner on Mormon Stories. I can assure you that this message board is John Gee's worst nightmare and when he learned about Anubis's nose being hacked out it sent him into a death spiral. All he can do is navigate his course towards retirement so he can collect his pension. Whether he continues to lie to himself and everyone else beyond that is anyone's guess.

:twisted:

Hey John, get ur ass over here on Discuss Mormonism and tell me about the king's name, Anubis's nose, and predynastic Egypt as discussed in chapter 1 of the Book of Abraham. Shulem will kick ur ass, baby!

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Shulem wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:04 am
Philo Sofee wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:28 am
Makes ya wonder if he has secretly been reading these message boards and watching our videos on Book of Abraham. The evidence really is against the literal interpretation of Joseph Smith, at least Egyptologically.

Oh, you can bet that Gee-baby pays mind to this board! He's also aware of your podcasts and especially the interviews with Ritner on Mormon Stories. I can assure you that this message board is John Gee's worst nightmare and when he learned about Anubis's nose being hacked out it sent him into a death spiral. All he can do is navigate his course towards retirement so he can collect his pension. Whether he continues to lie to himself and everyone else beyond that is anyone's guess.

:twisted:

Hey John, get ur ass over here on Discuss Mormonism and tell me about the king's name, Anubis's nose, and predynastic Egypt as discussed in chapter 1 of the Book of Abraham. Shulem will kick ur ass, baby!

:lol:

I win and you loose! Yeah, baby!!!!
Wait, lemme guess: Ptolemy?
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Re: Tyler Livingston--Former FAIR Stalwart--Has Left the Church

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:11 pm
I received word recently from an anonymous "informant" who notified me that Tyler Livingston--once a mainstay of FAIR apologetics--has left the LDS Church. Livingston seemed for a time to be a key figure in the Mopologetic movement. He was active at Book of Mormon Central and if I'm not mistaken, his work was cited by Dr. Peterson. Livingston even directed the apologetic Book of Abraham film, A Most Remarkable Book: Evidence for the Divine Authenticity of the Book of Abraham, which is currently on sale at the FAIR website for the bargain price of $9.99, in case you need a stocking stuffer this holiday season.

In any case, Livingston joins an ever-growing number of ex-Mopologists who have left the Church after being highly active in FAIR and its sister organizations. I hope he finds his way to this board, as I bet he's got some interesting stories that would be worth sharing.
It would be interesting to get some idea of what the shelf-breakers were for Tyler. His apologetic writing seem to be focussed on showing the Book of Mormon was non-fiction through looking at things like geography etc. Reminiscent of BH Roberts' journey perhaps.
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