Kishkumen, how did the LDS practice of polygamy aggravate inequalities between the genders?Kishkumen wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:11 pmIt is one thing to say that consenting adults should be able to do as they please, but that is a different question than asking whether the organization to which you have pledged your obedience should hypothetically be able to reorder your marital choices according to its changing priorities, especially in ways that aggravate inequalities between the genders.
What exactly Is Wrong with Polygamy anyway?
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Because there aren't two women for every man under normal circumstances.
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Re: What exactly Is Wrong with Polygamy anyway?
What exactly is wrong with polygamy anyway?
Really?
ALL IN THE FAMILY
Polygamist Mormon ‘Prophet’ Had Sex With His Underage Wives’ Father, FBI Says
Decca Muldowney
Reporter-Researcher
Updated Dec. 06, 2022 4:15PM ET /
Published Dec. 06, 2022 1:11PM ET
Coconino County Sheriff's Office
https://www.thedailybeast.com/polygamis ... r-fbi-says
Really?
ALL IN THE FAMILY
Polygamist Mormon ‘Prophet’ Had Sex With His Underage Wives’ Father, FBI Says
Decca Muldowney
Reporter-Researcher
Updated Dec. 06, 2022 4:15PM ET /
Published Dec. 06, 2022 1:11PM ET
Coconino County Sheriff's Office
Talk about the fruit of a poisonous tree.Samuel Bateman, a self-proclaimed “prophet” of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, had 20 wives, many of whom were under the age of 15, according to an FBI investigation. Bateman drank wine and had sex with a male follower, Moroni Johnson, in a motel room in Lincoln, Nebraska, in front of his underage wives, new court documents show, some of whom were Johnson’s own daughters. The FBI said the women and girls were required to stand naked and watch the “binding of brothers.”
Bateman also forced his wives to have sex with other male followers, the documents say. He maintained that he was acting under instructions from “Heavenly Father,” and told the girls that had “sacrificed their virtue for the Lord.” Eight underage girls said to be Bateman’s wives were found at a Spokane Air BnB last Thursday, according to the Spokesman-Review. They had previously run away from children’s homes in Arizona where they were placed following Bateman’s arrest in August on charges of child endangerment.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/polygamis ... r-fbi-says
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Re: What exactly Is Wrong with Polygamy anyway?
KevinSim wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:59 amKishkumen, how did the LDS practice of polygamy aggravate inequalities between the genders?Kishkumen wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:11 pmIt is one thing to say that consenting adults should be able to do as they please, but that is a different question than asking whether the organization to which you have pledged your obedience should hypothetically be able to reorder your marital choices according to its changing priorities, especially in ways that aggravate inequalities between the genders.
KevinSim, have you not read the 8 previous pages in the thread that you began?!?
Re: What exactly Is Wrong with Polygamy anyway?
I think the math is pretty simple. If I as a husband have access to multiple wives, but my wives only have access to one husband, then those wives are really getting shorted on their access to a spousal partner.
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Furthermore when the social model places the man as the head of the household, with his wife only having soft power/ influence, then with polygamy any given wife's power in the larger community is diminished further.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63885426
The Bateman polygamy story shines a light on the Mormon Church to an international audience.
A self-proclaimed prophet in the US had more than 20 wives, some of them younger than 18, the FBI has said.
By Laura Gozzi
BBC News
The Bateman polygamy story shines a light on the Mormon Church to an international audience.
A self-proclaimed prophet in the US had more than 20 wives, some of them younger than 18, the FBI has said.
By Laura Gozzi
BBC News
Samuel Rappylee Bateman claimed it was God's will for him to engage in sexual acts with his wives, the FBI said.
Bateman, 46, was charged in September with destroying records and obstructing justice in an investigation into whether children were being transported across state lines for sexual activity.
The details come from an FBI affidavit filed on Friday.
"Generally speaking, the errors in religion are dangerous; those in philosophy only ridiculous." (David Hume)
"Errors in science are learning opportunities and are corrected when better data become available." (DrW)
"Errors in science are learning opportunities and are corrected when better data become available." (DrW)
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This is purely anecdotal, but I tend to find the members of the church who bring up polygamy, even if it is in the vein of "I am only asking questions," have some things they need to workout at home. Like, just be happy that you got married, the rest of us are a bit shocked someone will put up with you.
I am all for consenting adults live how they want to live. But if you want something more than your current spouse, try polyamory.
I am all for consenting adults live how they want to live. But if you want something more than your current spouse, try polyamory.
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You honestly think that if people are faced with a decision to be single or to be in a polygamous marriage, they will think polygamy is the better choice?