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Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:18 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
If you didn’t get a chance to watch it last night, I urge you to do so. It’s a master class of holding senior leadership to their own rules, and by doing so demonstrating just how absurd they and their rules are.

https://youtu.be/oBFkuqtwujc

In particular, Dallin Oaks, that smarmy weasel, is totally exposed as the fraud and deceptive schmuck he is. Well done, Nemo. May a temple recommend manifest in the near future, brother. :lol:

- Doc

Re: Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:41 pm
by dastardly stem
I listened a bit. But if he's a fan of Jesus, which apparently he is, maybe he's getting sent strong delusions so he believes a lie for being evil? 2 Thess 2

I didn't stick around for his details but I'd guess these brethren would object to the accusation of repeated lies. "but you had to have known" makes it all likely I suppose and that may be good enough for him. Problem is, we all lie at times. And God apparently lies and endorses lies. If God loves Mormonism why does he too sit idly by why these evil and designing men running his church are happy to make and tell lies? Nemo may think "God wants to use me to expose these fools for what they are." Unfortunately I'm guessing that'll end in disappointment. God's likely not using him.

I mean I'm cetainly glad to hear he objects to lies and thinks God objects, but that is, of course, contravening scriptural precedent. God lies...he loves a lie. He uses them for his convenience. He has spent our whole existence refusing to tell us things and allows us to be misled down crazy sounding avenues of thought and exploration. God could simply be using these leaders to continue his preferred trend.

Re: Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:09 pm
by Tator
Thanx Doc for posting this. I very rarely listen/watch this kind of stuff any more but for some reason I watched the whole thing. It was very good. I put Nemo now in the same category as Jeremy Reynolds. This is not going to go away and I am sure it is going to put a lot more weight on a lot more shelves.

Re: Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:02 pm
by consiglieri
I was so happy to be a part of dropping a hand grenade down Elder Oaks’s shorts.

Re: Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:23 pm
by drumdude
It’s a good thing to now have concrete evidence that the votes during general conference are nothing but a charade. Once enough members become aware of it, it will become an embarsssing ritual.

Re: Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:35 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Tator wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:09 pm
Thanx Doc for posting this. I very rarely listen/watch this kind of stuff any more but for some reason I watched the whole thing. It was very good. I put Nemo now in the same category as Jeremy Reynolds. This is not going to go away and I am sure it is going to put a lot more weight on a lot more shelves.
It was especially gratifying to see he ‘Doors of Death’ thread found here:

https://www.discussmormonism.com/viewto ... Delta+Utah

play a role in Nemo’s absolute hammer time smackdown of the Mormafia’s deceit. These men have been getting away with their bullshytt for far too long.

- Doc

Re: Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:20 pm
by Dr Moore
I found the content of Nemo's email trail with his SP and with Pres Oaks to be absolutely fascinating. Yet I also came away with a sense of disappointment.

Not because the documentary trail will fail to generate a lot of heat - it likely will.

Rather, because I can see the inevitable outcome a mile off.

Nemo will be ex'd for openly speaking out against a member of the FP, just like Bill Reel. Because the circle was closed behind closed doors in the form of a now-destroyed email between Oaks and Nemo's SP, his journey will be judged a failure to "prove" what is implicitly proven by these exchanges. FAIR exonerated Oaks, however laughable their apologetic. Only Oaks knows if he lied or not, and he's not answering that question.

That will be enough to add a paper weight on some shelves, but it won't be successful in cancelling Oaks in the eyes of believers.

Re: Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:30 pm
by Doctor Steuss
Is there a document link by chance to the emails?

Re: Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:30 pm
by Rivendale
consiglieri wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:02 pm
I was so happy to be a part of dropping a hand grenade down Elder Oaks’s shorts.
Now his left hand is useless. Except during sacrament meeting.

Re: Mormonism Live 104 was excellent

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:52 pm
by Dr Exiled
Great show! We really have some talented people that frequent this site. Consig, you continue to do excellent work!

You know, I bet if Oaks and his buddies would just admit to being human once in a while, the members would understand and would still support them. However, they have chosen the never to admit fallibility path. They are too chickenshyt to stand up and take responsibility. It causes so much disaffection that I wonder how many they have led away from the supposed one and only true church by their actions.