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Abstract: Believers in the God of Abraham — who include not only Jews and Christians but also Muslims — are exhorted to call upon him every day, as well as in times of need. We are promised that he will respond to petitionary prayers. Moreover, we are assured that, in the end, believers will prosper, that their faith or trust in him will prove justified. But we are not promised that rewards, compensation, or justice will come to us on our mortal timetable — and this raises sometimes burningly acute questions about Providence and even, for more than a few, about either God’s benevolence, his care, or his sheer existence. So we are also exhorted to be patient. And that sets us up for many of mortality’s greatest tests. In the meantime, while faithfully waiting for God’s promises to be fulfilled, we ourselves are to work toward their fulfillment “with all [our] heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters” (Colossians 3:23, NIV).

Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:05 pm

Mormons have precious few friends left. It's largely their own doing.

malkie wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:46 pm

Also worth noting is that apparently many ex-Mormons remain Christians.

drumdude wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:41 pm

DCP posted this a few days ago. He’s always very good at reminding Christians and Mormons that Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are brothers from the same mother tradition.

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.o ... -patience/

Abstract: Believers in the God of Abraham — who include not only Jews and Christians but also Muslims — are exhorted to call upon him every day, as well as in times of need. We are promised that he will respond to petitionary prayers. Moreover, we are assured that, in the end, believers will prosper, that their faith or trust in him will prove justified. But we are not promised that rewards, compensation, or justice will come to us on our mortal timetable — and this raises sometimes burningly acute questions about Providence and even, for more than a few, about either God’s benevolence, his care, or his sheer existence. So we are also exhorted to be patient. And that sets us up for many of mortality’s greatest tests. In the meantime, while faithfully waiting for God’s promises to be fulfilled, we ourselves are to work toward their fulfillment “with all [our] heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters” (Colossians 3:23, NIV).

Which got me thinking. Why can’t Dan embrace ex-Mormons and atheists in a similar way? Are only the religious to be celebrated and commiserated with?

sock puppet wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 pm

drumdude wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:41 pm

DCP posted this a few days ago. He’s always very good at reminding Christians and Mormons that Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are brothers from the same mother tradition.

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.o ... -patience/



Which got me thinking. Why can’t Dan embrace ex-Mormons and atheists in a similar way? Are only the religious to be celebrated and commiserated with?

In my mission (eons ago), we were told to politely excuse ourselves and depart if we encountered a non-believer. We were told by the mission president it is too hard to build from nothing, faith and then Mormon-specific faith. Instead, we should focus on theists, and just re-tool them from whatever flavor of believer they might be to Mormon believer.

DCP
we are assured that, in the end, believers will prosper, that their faith or trust in him will prove justified.

Kishkumen wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:24 am

I hope we can all strive to be decent to each other as human beings with a shared lot in this fragile world. I don’t need shared religious sympathies to see someone as my sibling in the human family.