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Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:49 pm
by Chap
Failed Prophecy wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:09 am
Meh. He says something close, but the meme overplays the emphasis. Timestamp 19:18 here:

https://youtu.be/Zm2EMhPAoSI

It's also clear he means for it to provide a hypothetical perspective. That's way different than the headline the meme asserts.
Well, based on what he said (and I've just listened to it) I think we can quite fairly say that he is suggesting to his audience they should take the teachings and policy of the CoJCoLDS as being in effect identical to the teachings and policy of Jesus Christ, and accordingly refrain from expressing criticism or opposition to either.

After making those statements he then moved on to tell the story of the biblical Uzzah, who was struck down by God for steadying the Ark of the Covenant when it seemed in danger of falling from the carrying poles used by the priests who were carrying the Ark in procession. Hence, by analogy, he suggests that members of the CoJCoLDS should leave the development of teaching and policy to the small group of supposedly divinely appointed men whom alone God has allegedly authorised to deal with such matters.

Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:29 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
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Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:34 pm
by dastardly stem
Yeah but everyone disagrees with the savior. Not even the worst psychopath follows his advice of hating everyone else in your life but loving Jesus the most.

Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:04 pm
by Failed Prophecy
Chap wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:49 pm
Well, based on what he said (and I've just listened to it) I think we can quite fairly say that he is suggesting to his audience they should take the teachings and policy of the CoJCoLDS as being in effect identical to the teachings and policy of Jesus Christ, and accordingly refrain from expressing criticism or opposition to either.
Sure, but that's really no change. D&C 1:38 should have already sealed the deal on that one.
After making those statements he then moved on to tell the story of the biblical Uzzah, who was struck down by God for steadying the Ark of the Covenant when it seemed in danger of falling from the carrying poles used by the priests who were carrying the Ark in procession. Hence, by analogy, he suggests that members of the CoJCoLDS should leave the development of teaching and policy to the small group of supposedly divinely appointed men whom alone God has allegedly authorised to deal with such matters.
Ugh. Proof texting at its finest. That's the only passage LDS leaders ever cite on the ark of the covenant. They leave out all of the other stories that undermine that interpretation.

Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:48 pm
by Rivendale
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:29 pm
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The savior was fooled by Mark Hofmann.

Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:55 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
The Savior denied His atonement to children of Gay parents for four years.

- Doc

Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:10 pm
by Rivendale
The Savior neither seeks nor gives apologies.

Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:58 pm
by ¥akaSteelhead
“The Savior isn’t perfect but the gospel is.”

Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:37 am
by Kishkumen
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:29 pm
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:41 am
by Kishkumen
¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:58 pm
“The Savior isn’t perfect but the gospel is.”
Well played.

Also:

The Savior has a hundred billion plus investment portfolio.

The Savior opened a new shopping mall in downtown SLC.

The Savior underpays his employees to protect his bottom line.

The Savior gets kickbacks from all his employees.

The Savior uses highly paid lawyers to protect him when he shields pedophiles.