“Peter Pan” is Unmasked as Mike Parker

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:48 pm
From NNL:
I trust, however, that honest people of good will—among whom I count many of my readers—will be interested in hearing how this blog began and why it exists in the first place.

As I mentioned in this interview, I tried to be accurate and fair when I described the beliefs and arguments of Jonathan Neville and others in the Heartland movement. If anything I said was inaccurate, please leave a comment below and offer a correction.

—Mike Parker [“Peter Pan”]
Honest? Good will? You’re a joke, Peter Pan. And Boylan cutting out pertinent information from your “interview” with him is pathetic and cowardly.

damned Mormons … just apologize already for your bad behavior.

- Doc
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Re: “Peter Pan” is Unmasked as Mike Parker

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Parker’s latest blog entry is a classic. He’s ostensibly responding to what he calls a “thoughtful” comment from a Heartlander, but it quickly becomes an exercise in blaming Jonathan Neville: “Well, he did it first!!!” E.g.,:
As long as Jonathan Neville doesn’t mind using website names to tease his ideological opponents, then I trust he won’t mind me doing the same. I try, however, to avoid descending into name-calling and demonization, something that (sadly) Neville himself stoops to on an occasional basis (for example, see here and here).
Lol. And this line is pretty much a perfect summary of how Mopologetics operates:
Mike Parker wrote:two wrongs don’t make a right, but they do make things even.
I doubt I could come up with a more succinct way of defining the motives of Mopologists.
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Re: “Peter Pan” is Unmasked as Mike Parker

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:18 am
Parker’s latest blog entry is a classic. He’s ostensibly responding to what he calls a “thoughtful” comment from a Heartlander, but it quickly becomes an exercise in blaming Jonathan Neville: “Well, he did it first!!!” E.g.,:
As long as Jonathan Neville doesn’t mind using website names to tease his ideological opponents, then I trust he won’t mind me doing the same. I try, however, to avoid descending into name-calling and demonization, something that (sadly) Neville himself stoops to on an occasional basis (for example, see here and here).
Lol. And this line is pretty much a perfect summary of how Mopologetics operates:
Mike Parker wrote:two wrongs don’t make a right, but they do make things even.
I doubt I could come up with a more succinct way of defining the motives of Mopologists.
Oh come on guys. We all know you hate Mormons for whatever reasons. But tomorrow is Easter. Reconcile a little in remembering what the Lord did for you. He hung on the cross for you, to bear your burdens and sins if you repent.

“If your forgive men their trespasses…your Heavenly Father will also forgive you.”

Mike Parker was bamboozled into believing M2C like many others. He was just trying to defend the Two Cumorah Meso nonesense in his own way. You already noted Neville offered to meet with him and be friends. Why can’t all of you if Neville holds no animosity? Neville was kind enough to meet with The Backyard Professor. That was cool. Reconcile with Parker in good faith in return.

F.A.R.M.S. was created in 1978, I believe. They’re the ones who pushed all this M2C silliness onto the Church. This is a 1973 article by the late Dr. Michael A. Coe of Yale University, mentioning L.E. Hills’s works from 1917-1924. Coe was the authority on the Maya:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/45224400.pdf

I just happened to find L.E. Hills’ three books and four Meso maps scanned online. All published in Independence, MO.

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1918book
https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1918map

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1919book
https://tinyurl.com/Hills1919Map

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1924book
https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1924bookM2C

The false M2C was being taught at BYU in the 1960s. It’s still being taught by BMC, IP and FAIR. Parker is just following the lead of the older founders of these three organizations who claim to be followers of Dr. John L. Sorenson’s M2C scholarship. If they knew about L.E. Hills’ books, they obviously were not honest with Mike Parker.

But I don’t know that. Maybe no one alive knows about L.E. Hills’ books and history, except for me. Did any of you?

Let it go. Tomorrow is Easter. Peace.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:18 am
Parker’s latest blog entry is a classic. He’s ostensibly responding to what he calls a “thoughtful” comment from a Heartlander, but it quickly becomes an exercise in blaming Jonathan Neville: “Well, he did it first!!!” E.g.,:
As long as Jonathan Neville doesn’t mind using website names to tease his ideological opponents, then I trust he won’t mind me doing the same. I try, however, to avoid descending into name-calling and demonization, something that (sadly) Neville himself stoops to on an occasional basis (for example, see here and here).
Lol. And this line is pretty much a perfect summary of how Mopologetics operates:
Mike Parker wrote:two wrongs don’t make a right, but they do make things even.
I doubt I could come up with a more succinct way of defining the motives of Mopologists.
That was pretty telling, especially since the comment that prompted it was exactly the opposite of his approach.

There was this:
The title of your blog is not polite at least, and a snide attack at worst. The title is clever but indicates you have come to the conclusion that Jonathan Neville is delusional or his research and conclusions are pure fantasy. Your subtitle ‘…the Heartland hoax’ is also implying intentional deceit. You may disagree but I don’t think it is good to cast malice or bad intent on Rod Meldrum, Wayne May or anyone who embraces or leans toward the Heartland opinion. Wayne and Rod are clearly sincere and hold to the belief of divine authorization of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

If you truly want to come off as a non attack website, you can get a respectful domain name and move the content.
And Parker's response:
...I mentioned in my March 26, 2023, blog post (which you may not have read yet) that the name of this blog is, indeed, a pun. It’s intended as a lighthearted one...
The intent is not really the issue, it's how it comes across to those being mocked. And no, Parker's 'light-hearted pun' doesn't read as light-hearted at all, given his viciousness.
..I try, however, to avoid descending into name-calling and demonization, something that (sadly) Neville himself stoops to on an occasional basis...
Parker tries? Lol. Parker FAILS. for 4 years now, he has FAILED to 'avoid descending into name-calling and demonization...'
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I’m starting a new blog called “Mike Parker’s Tiny Peter Pan”

It’s just a lighthearted play on his name and shouldn’t be misinterpreted as an attack on Mike.
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TwoCumorahFraud wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:21 am
Oh come on guys. We all know you hate Mormons for whatever reasons. But tomorrow is Easter. Reconcile a little in remembering what the Lord did for you. He hung on the cross for you, to bear your burdens and sins if you repent.

“If your forgive men their trespasses…your Heavenly Father will also forgive you.”

Mike Parker was bamboozled into believing M2C like many others. He was just trying to defend the Two Cumorah Meso nonesense in his own way. You already noted Neville offered to meet with him and be friends. Why can’t all of you if Neville holds no animosity? Neville was kind enough to meet with The Backyard Professor. That was cool. Reconcile with Parker in good faith in return.

F.A.R.M.S. was created in 1978, I believe. They’re the ones who pushed all this M2C silliness onto the Church. This is a 1973 article by the late Dr. Michael A. Coe of Yale University, mentioning L.E. Hills’s works from 1917-1924. Coe was the authority on the Maya:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/45224400.pdf

I just happened to find L.E. Hills’ three books and four Meso maps scanned online. All published in Independence, MO.

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1918book
https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1918map

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1919book
https://tinyurl.com/Hills1919Map

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1924book
https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1924bookM2C

The false M2C was being taught at BYU in the 1960s. It’s still being taught by BMC, IP and FAIR. Parker is just following the lead of the older founders of these three organizations who claim to be followers of Dr. John L. Sorenson’s M2C scholarship. If they knew about L.E. Hills’ books, they obviously were not honest with Mike Parker.

But I don’t know that. Maybe no one alive knows about L.E. Hills’ books and history, except for me. Did any of you?
FARMS was not created in 1978.

I own all of Hills’ books. I’ve visited his residence (201 S. Willis Ave., Independence, Missouri). Have you? I look forward to shaking Hills’ hand and thanking him in the Spirit World for his good work. It’s time to let your animosity toward him go and forgive him.
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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... smiss.html

Weird. For a guy who ‘doesn’t know much’ about the NNL hate blog, dowsin’ Dan sure does shill Mike “Peter Pan” Parker’s nonsense hard.

So, instead of owning their crappy behavior, they’re going to spin doctor their racist joke, continue to attack the Heartlanders, and pretend they’re the victims? Cool. Cool cool cool.

- Doc
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In anticipation of Bill’s podcast tomorrow I took a look at Mike “Peter Pan” Parker’s hate blog, Neville Neville-Land today. Lo and behold he and Stephen “Captain Hook” Smoot are back to savaging Jonathan Neville. So, apparently Russell M. Nelson’s plea to members to bury their muskets or whatever had a lasting impact on the Mopologists for, what, two weeks?

In typical weasel-faced nitpicking, “Peter Pan” Parker nitpicks every little thing about Neville’s recent post on his own blog, and lionizes everything the Mopes do while also conveniently reaching out to “Captain Hook” Smoot for his own comments about Neville.

Mike Parker has made it abundantly clear he’s not interested in apologizing for his various duplicities, his hate blog, making amends to a fellow Latter-day Saint, and leading a better life iaw Russell M. Nelson’s counsel. He’s only interested in contention.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:59 pm
In anticipation of Bill’s podcast tomorrow I took a look at Mike “Pater Pan” Parker’s hate blog, Neville Neville-Land today. Lo and behold he and Stephen “Captain Hook” Smoot are back to savaging Jonathan Neville. So, apparently Russell M. Nelson’s plea to members to bury their muskets or whatever had a lasting impact on the Mopologists for, what, two weeks?

In typical weasel-faced nitpicking, “Peter Pan” Parker nitpicks every little thing about Neville’s recent post on his own blog, and lionizes everything the Mopes do while also conveniently reaching out to “Captain Hook” Smoot for his own comments about Neville.

Mike Parker has made it abundantly clear he’s not interested in apologizing for his various duplicities, his hate blog, making amends to a fellow Latter-day Saint, and leading a better life iaw Russell M. Nelson’s counsel. He’s only interested in contention.

- Doc
I listened to his interview where there was an explanation regarding the creation of the fake character. He was afraid someone would show up at his work? In todays internet age that would mean never participating in it. And that wouldn't guarantee someone wouldn't show up at work. There was also references to exmormon gullibility. And worse? They couldn't understand how this joke was taken as some sort of deep state racial conspiracy. I look forward to his presentation.
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