Spilt his seed on the ground

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Spilt his seed on the ground

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Genesis 38 includes the following verses:
And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar.

7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him.

8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.

9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.

10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.

11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter in law, Remain a widow at thy father's house, till Shelah my son be grown: for he said, Lest peradventure he die also, as his brethren did. And Tamar went and dwelt in her father's house.
So, the god that had Nephi slay Laban for refusing to give over his property (brass plates with a history written thereon) also slew Onan for spilling his seed on the ground rather than impregnating his deceased brother's (Er's) widow, as their father, Judah, had directed Onan.

In an April 14, 1969 First Presidency Letter to Bishops and Stake Presidents, David O. McKay wrote:
We seriously regret that there should exist a sentiment or feeling among any members of the Church to curtail the birth of their children. We have been commanded to multiply and replenish the earth that we may have joy and rejoicing in our posterity.

Where husband and wife enjoy health and vigor and are free from impurities that would be entailed upon their posterity, it is contrary to the teachings of the Church artificially to curtail or prevent the birth of children. We believe that those who practice birth control will reap disappointment by and by.
Since the first of this year, the LDS Church has expanded the health coverage for its employees to include contraceptives (other than the Plan B pill).

Is this just one more instance of where Mormon god had to be led by societal advancements into changing to do the right thing?
Apologists try to shill an explanation to questioning members as though science and reason really explain and buttress their professed faith. It [sic] does not. By definition, faith is the antithesis of science and reason. Apologetics is a further deception by faith peddlers to keep power and influence.
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Post by drumdude »

Nimrod wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:35 pm
Is this just one more instance of where Mormon god had to be led by societal advancements into changing to do the right thing?
No brother Nimrod. This was all divine revelation received at the proper time. Line by line, precept by precept.

Prophets never bend to social pressure.
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Re: Spilt his seed on the ground

Post by Everybody Wang Chung »

As Spencer W. Kimball was fond of saying:


Maybe SWK was right. This is pretty scary stuff:
Heart attacks, blindness and ligament damage (Devil’s Elbow) are all diseases associated with self-rape. Whenever you masturbate you’re playing Russian Roulette! Your next stroke of the sin-sword or ringing of the Devil’s Doorbell could be your last! Do you really want to go out like British rocker Michael Hutchinson or Oriental Kung-Fu fighter David Carradine?
https://stopmasturbationnow.org/death/m ... -roulette/
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Post by Alphus and Omegus »

It's ok to use birth control now because Elohim is running out of righteous spirits. There are only so many white and delightsome spirits left in the pre-existence queue. But there are plenty of fence-sitters who can be born into a lifetime of poverty and disease though.

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Re: Spilt his seed on the ground

Post by honorentheos »

Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:19 am
... stroke of the sin-sword
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