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Church 2022 growth rates by country

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:56 pm
by Rivendale
I can't remember ever seeing a negative growth rate in the US. http://ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.com/ ... 2.html?m=1.

United States -62 (0.42% decrease)
Russia -21 (23.3% decrease)
Japan -20 (7.97% decrease)
Canada -6 (1.20% decrease)

Re: Church 2022 growth rates by country

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 5:59 pm
by Marcus
Just a side note, at your link there's a comment showing a link to a Mormon-faithful sub on reddit, one that doesn't tolerate any negative comments about the lds church. Due to the way breaks are shown, the title reads something like this:

"how many have you not iced, more or fewer pple? "

:lol: I've been working in NYC for long enough, I think.

Re: Church 2022 growth rates by country

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 6:49 pm
by drumdude
Will need a few more years to establish a trend, fingers crossed that the church is finally on the decline in the US.

Re: Church 2022 growth rates by country

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 7:21 pm
by MsJack
I recently re-connected with the Mormon family I knew in high school. The ones who took me along with them on my first trip to Utah in 1999, who tried so ardently to convert me. The father was a direct descendent of a well-known early Mormon apostle (same last name) and had been the Stake Missionary, back when that was a thing.

The parents are divorced, the mother is remarried, and the former Stake Missionary has not been to church in over a decade. My friend from high school has not attended church in years and posts ex-Mormon / liberal Mormon stuff criticizing the church all the time. They have not officially removed their names.

Almost everyone who tried so ardently to convert me back when I first discovered Mormonism has been out of the church for years.

My ex-in-laws had five children. Three (including my XH) are now non-believing or non-attending.

It's only anecdotal, but I imagine if you factored in inactivity, the numbers would be much worse.

Re: Church 2022 growth rates by country

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 7:49 pm
by BeNotDeceived
IMHO, at some point, the 'church' is going to be forced to convert to a charity or to a full-fledge real estate corporation as the truth about who the real Joseph Smith was and the fraudulent foundations upon which he founded the religion becomes more evident and mainstream. I think it's obvious which one they'll opt for. :lol:

Re: Church 2022 growth rates by country

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 8:47 pm
by Nimrod
Yeah. I dated a woman who had been married to a guy involved in Amway, as well as the LDS church. She said the Amway conventions evoked more of "the spirit" per the LDS descriptions than any LDS meeting she'd ever attended. So there is the third option: the church could become a MLM. Oh, wait, it sort of already is.

Re: Church 2022 growth rates by country

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 11:39 pm
by Everybody Wang Chung
Europe is on life support. I don't think the Church can survive in Europe much longer. The work is hastening (in reverse):
Country 2000 2022 diff. %
Greece 5 2 -3 -60
Belgium 26 12 -14 -53.8
Bulgaria 14 7 -7 -50
Slovenia 4 2 -2 -50
Netherlands 43 24 -44.2
Poland 18 11 -7 -38.9
Russia 112 69 -43 -38.4
Portugal 87 60 -27 -31
Czechia 17 12 -5 -29.4
Italy 129 94 -35 -27.1
Austria 22 17 -5 -22.7
Germany 189 148 -41 -21.7
Sweden 51 40 -9 -21.6
Norway 24 19 -5 -20.8
Ukraine 58 46 -12 -20.7
Romania 18 15 -3 -16.7
Denmark 25 21 -4 -16
Switzerland 40 34 -6 -15
France 125 108 -17 -13.6
UK 364 317 -47 -12.9
Finland 31 29 -2 -6.5
Spain 144 136 -8 -5.6
Hungary 21 21 0 0
Ireland 13 13 0 0
Malta 1 1 0 0
Serbia 3 3 0 0
Lithuania 4 5 +1 +25
Estonia 3 4 +1 +33.3
Slovakia 3 4 +1 +33.3
Croatia 4 6 +2 +50
Iceland 2 3 +1 +50
Cyprus 3 5 +2 +66.7
Latvia 3 5 +2 +66.7
https://www.reddit.com/r/MormonShrivel/ ... _2000_and/

Re: Church 2022 growth rates by country

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 2:28 am
by malkie
Marcus wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 5:59 pm
Just a side note, at your link there's a comment showing a link to a Mormon-faithful sub on reddit, one that doesn't tolerate any negative comments about the LDS church. Due to the way breaks are shown, the title reads something like this:

"how many have you not iced, more or fewer pple? "

:lol: I've been working in NYC for long enough, I think.
Is this perhaps a reference to the practices of the Mormon mafia?

Re: Church 2022 growth rates by country

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 5:22 am
by Dr. Shades
MsJack wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 7:21 pm
I recently re-connected with the Mormon family I knew in high school. The ones who took me along with them on my first trip to Utah in 1999, who tried so ardently to convert me. . . The parents are divorced, the mother is remarried, and the former Stake Missionary has not been to church in over a decade. My friend from high school has not attended church in years and posts ex-Mormon / liberal Mormon stuff criticizing the church all the time.
For kicks and giggles, will you please contact them individually, then tell them that you're now open to joining the LDS church and ask them to tell you how to go about it?