F. Michael Watson Personally clarifies Hill Cumorah Letter

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DanielPeterson → Sledge • 3 hours ago
Sledge: "Looks like "they" are complaining about the "second Watson letter" again— heads up."

Dan: Sigh. This is a Really Big Deal for them.
I can scarcely recall what the issue is. It doesn't loom large in my personal history, whatever it is. I do know that they insist that I've lied about the matter, but, of course, I haven't. And, good grief, it was a mere blip, and it was, what, twenty or thirty years ago?
Ignore, minimize, deflect, forget.

Anything but engage with the fact that Dan was caught with his pants down.

Highly recommend the Mormonism Live episode on it. Dan has never engaged with any of their content because it’s so thorough and he can’t refute hours of meticulously detailed research with just 1-2 lazy sentences like he’s used to doing.
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The Ogden letter is the true one.
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DanielPeterson → Sledge • 3 hours ago
Sledge: "Looks like "they" are complaining about the "second Watson letter" again— heads up."

Dan: Sigh. This is a Really Big Deal for them.
I can scarcely recall what the issue is. It doesn't loom large in my personal history, whatever it is. I do know that they insist that I've lied about the matter, but, of course, I haven't. And, good grief, it was a mere blip, and it was, what, twenty or thirty years ago?
It's much harder to remember a fabrication than an actual experience.
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We care about a low level secretary’s opinion now?

So your sources of truth are: a 93 year old curmudgeon, and a (probably very old) secretary.

Cool.
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Flemming wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:46 am
We care about a low level secretary’s opinion now?

So your sources of truth are: a 93 year old curmudgeon, and a (probably very old) secretary.

Cool.
Actually, those would be their sources. If you have access to better ones, maybe you can help them out.
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I did. The Ogden letter.
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We care about a low level secretary’s opinion now?
Flemming, allow me to fix your quote for you:
Donald J. Trump (regarding Cassidy Hutchinson) wrote:We care about a low level secretary’s opinion now?
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drumdude wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:56 pm
DanielPeterson → Sledge • 3 hours ago
Sledge: "Looks like "they" are complaining about the "second Watson letter" again— heads up."

Dan: Sigh. This is a Really Big Deal for them.
I can scarcely recall what the issue is. It doesn't loom large in my personal history, whatever it is. I do know that they insist that I've lied about the matter, but, of course, I haven't. And, good grief, it was a mere blip, and it was, what, twenty or thirty years ago?
Ignore, minimize, deflect, forget.

Anything but engage with the fact that Dan was caught with his pants down.

Highly recommend the Mormonism Live episode on it. Dan has never engaged with any of their content because it’s so thorough and he can’t refute hours of meticulously detailed research with just 1-2 lazy sentences like he’s used to doing.
DCP can't even lie well anymore... :lol: "it doesn't loom large in my personal history..." he says! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Flemming wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:46 am
We care about a low level secretary’s opinion now?
No, they do. They falsely touted it as the Second Watson Letter when it was nothing more than a copy-and-paste from the Encyclopedia of Mormonism.

Blame them, not us.
So your sources of truth are: a 93 year old curmudgeon, and a (probably very old) secretary.
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