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GOP has a glaring Mormon problem

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:39 am
by Dr. Sunstoned
The Washington Post says that Mormonism is in decline, and Democrats are gaining traction with younger church members. There are no easy solutions for the church or the GOP. Not really earthshaking news for folks that follow the Mormon church. What this shows is that word is getting out and it looks like this trend is picking up momentum. Is snowball the right metafore or this, or should I use a rolling rock?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... Y7fIK06fEY

Re: GOP has a glaring Mormon problem

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 12:03 am
by drumdude
If you polled 100 active Mormons and asked them if they felt their church was vibrant, exciting and engaging, or if it was lifeless, boring, and a chore, what do you think they would say?

It’s hard to imagine many Mormons are excited about the church. And this is 5 years after Rusty told everyone to eat their vitamins so as not to miss the action.

Where’s the beef, Rusty?

Re: GOP has a glaring Mormon problem

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 4:56 am
by Everybody Wang Chung
Below is the article in its entirety. The comments are brutal. One thing conservatives and liberals can both agree on is their disdain for Mormons/Mormonism.
By David Byler
Data columnist
July 3, 2023 at 7:30 a.m.

Sen. Mitt Romney at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. on Jan. 21, 2020. (Melina Mara/The Washington Post)
Republicans often find themselves on the losing end of demographic shifts as the United States grows more racially diverse, better-educated and less religious. Only one long-term trend — the rapid growth of the reliably conservative Mormon Church — has consistently provided the GOP with good news.

But that consolation might be slipping away. Mormonism is in decline, and Democrats are gaining traction with younger church members. There are no easy solutions for the church or the GOP.

The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-day Saints has long been laser-focused on growth. Mormons often spend two to three years of their young adulthood as full-time missionaries in an effort to convert people across the nation and globe. And when missionaries come home, LDS culture encourages them to settle down quickly and raise large families.

Despite these efforts, the American Mormon Church is shrinking.

According to the Cooperative Elections Study — a long-running survey with enough respondents to reliably track Mormon affiliation — 1.8 percent of American adults identified as Mormon in 2007. In 15 years, that total dropped to 1.2 percent. In raw terms, that’s a net loss of roughly 1 million adult members.

The LDS Church maintains a more detailed count, but it might overestimate its strength. Its records include children and “inactive” members, some of whom are former Mormons who skipped the bureaucratic chore of removing their names from the church’s rolls. The church’s count shows positive — but rapidly decelerating — growth.

The LDS Church isn’t unique in its struggles. Americans increasingly distrust organized religion — and organizations of all kinds, for that matter. That feeling of alienation is driving Americans away from other Christian sects as well.

But the LDS Church is also losing some of its distinctive strengths. Mormons are well-known for having large families (and they still do have more children than Americans from other faith traditions), but recent survey data show that’s changing:

Meanwhile, the church’s close alliance with the GOP might be costing it members. As Notre Dame political science professor David Campbell, who was raised Mormon, told me, “There’s an allergic reaction among many Americans — particularly those who lean to the left politically — when religion and politics mix. We see it among Catholics. We see it among evangelicals. And we’re seeing it among Mormons.”

The Mormon Church has tried to solve its problems by trying to redouble its missionary efforts and reducing the length of its Sunday services from three hours to two. It also recently told members to consider each candidate’s character and positions rather than vote straight-ticket, a not-so-subtle signal that the church wants Democrats in the pews, too. As a result, the church is in better shape than some other Christian groups, but that hasn’t been enough to reverse its decline.

That’s a big problem for the GOP. And worse, as Eastern Illinois University political scientist Ryan Burge notes, while older Mormons are reliably Republican, their younger peers are increasingly flirting with Democrats.

Republicans might regain some ground with young Mormons when former president Donald Trump departs the political stage. Trump turned off many LDS voters with his uncouth personal style, constant feuds with Mormon Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah and attempts to restrict Muslim immigration. (Mormons faced religious discrimination throughout U.S. history and tend to react negatively to attacks on any single religious group.)

But Trump’s exit — whether that comes in 2024, 2028 or later — might not heal all wounds. Burge calculated that Mormons younger than 40 were more likely to favor abortion “for any reason” than their older peers. I found similar patterns on other foundational political questions, such as whether White Americans have advantages due to their skin color.

None of this data signals doom for the Republican Party. Since Mormons make up a small portion of the country, Republicans could recoup lost LDS votes with converts from the other 98 percent of the population.

But a struggling — and increasingly bipartisan — LDS Church is a headache for the GOP. In every election, the Republicans have to invent new ways to keep up with the nation’s increasing racial diversity, growing suburbanization and decreasing religiosity. A changing Mormon Church adds one more problem to their plate.

Re: GOP has a glaring Mormon problem

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:47 pm
by Bond
Utah could be a swing state in 20 years if the young Mormons and exmormons stay bluish and SLC keeps attracting young progressive outdoor types as the Boomers hit the Celestial.

Utah could also still be a 60-40 GOP state in 20 years. The data is so fuzzy since Mitt ran in 2012, Evan McWhat'sHisFace ran in 2016, and Trump's been on the ballot in 2016 and 2020 (and 2024 most likely). Trump being on the ballot in 2024 might get Utah within 15-18 points since he seems more disliked by Mormons than the average GOP candidate. I could see 58-37 for Trump in 2020 being 56-40 in 2024 if gas prices and inflation are under control. Salt Lake Co was 67-33 for all candidates vs Trump in 2016 compared to 57-43 when it was Trump/Biden so definitely some wiggle room amongst some voters in the most populous county. SLCounty (~1/3 of Utah's population) would need to keep growing and be something like 60-40 straight Democrat to offset Utah County which at the moment is the GOP's immovable object in Utah.