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drumdude wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:18 am

MG 2.0 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:58 pm

That’s the Radiant Foundation, yes.

drumdude, did you find the connection between Deseret Management/LDS Church and Faith Matters?

And what do you think about Faith Matters from what you’ve now seen? I would hazard a guess that this organization just came onto your radar.

Do you see this organization as being a net positive?

Regards,
MG

I like many of the members of the Faith Matters organization based on their website photos. Many of them are familiar apologists who work for the new Maxwell Institute and I associate with more fair minded apologetics than, say Interpreter.

But I only just glanced at it.

Do you see this organization as a preferable way to approach and help people with issues/questions rather than the in your face apologists and hard critics duking it out and calling each other names, etc?

I see it as a positive move in the direction of helping people navigate their faith.

I would think that Res Ipsa, Marcus, and you might feel the same. If not, I would wonder why.

Res Ipsa, I’m just responding to posts others, including you, have made. I don’t see that as hijacking your thread.

Regards,
MG

drumdude wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:29 am

I’ll have to look into the website more.

Check out the podcasts too. There is a podcast app for Faith Matters.

Regards,
MG

drumdude wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:34 am

MG 2.0 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:31 am

Look at the post just before your last one.

Regards,
MG

So we’ve established one of these sites absolutely is associated with the church, right?

Is it a stretch to think the church might be involved in the other? Both of the sites seem to shy away from explicitly telling visitors who they’re owned by.

At this point I’d say it’s REAL stretch. Waiting for Res Ipsa to show the connection.

And I’m curious what he and Marcus think about this form of apologetic work vs. old style.

Regards,
MG

Here is one of the ‘apologists’ on Faith Matters:

https://youtu.be/O0rOBheU_eQ

https://youtu.be/TnR9sMMCUxY

A bit different than what some of you folks are used to.

Regards,
MG

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:47 am

MG 2.0 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:37 am

At this point I’d say it’s REAL stretch. Waiting for Res Ipsa to show the connection.

And I’m curious what he and Marcus think about this form of apologetic work vs. old style.

Regards,
MG

I'm 100% uninterested in your question. It's a big old board. Please start your own thread on the subject.

Interesting response Res Ipsa. You started the subject. I engaged. But whatever.

Beginnings of Faith Matters:

https://youtu.be/WXIhtTOV6KQ

I find it interesting that you seemingly have no interest and/or opinion on Faith Matters as part of the overall Mormon discussion and especially in the area of apologetics.

Be that as it may, carry on.

You came up empty this time.

Regards,
MG

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:45 am

The Radiant Foundation is an illustration of why it is important to know what you don't know. I'm not finished using it because it is such a crystal clear example of the importance of knowing what you don't know.

What you, MG 2.0, don't know: (1) whether or not the COJCOLDS has any connection with Faith Matters; and (2) whether Faith Matters has an "authoritarian" structure. So far, the best you've come up with is a weak attempt to read the mind of a reporter on a subject she was silent on in an article: who controls Faith Matters?

You essentially went on a fishing expedition without catching any fish.

Faith Matters. A new way to navigate Mormon apologetics and faith.

Highly recommended!

Like minded individuals practicing their faith with open minds and hearts.

Regards,
MG

Faith Matters got sucked in to the debate of John D’s a Faith Crisis. Faith Matters fell for it. It was never a Faith Crisis it was a God crisis. So Faith Matters should actually be called God Mattters. But the leaders of the church fell for it and took the bait. Now they have billions to pump into a website Faith Matters.

yellowstone123 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:13 pm

Faith Matters got sucked in to the debate of John D’s a Faith Crisis. Faith Matters fell for it. It was never a Faith Crisis it was a God crisis. So Faith Matters should actually be called God Mattters. But the leaders of the church fell for it and took the bait. Now they have billions to pump into a website Faith Matters.

I am not seeing a connection between Faith Matters Foundation and the LDS Church. On another thread there has been no evidence of a connection.

Faith Matters seems to be independent of the church.

I’ve asked others whether or not Faith Matters is a new way that members with issues/concerns are approaching the intersection between faith and doubt…and whether or not this is a positive thing.

I think it is. Critics, at least from what I’m gathering, seem to disagree.

https://faithmatters.org/

Many folks are now seeing Faith Matters as an alternative to, let’s say, Mormon Stories for example. Or boards/blogs that take a decidedly negative view/approach to apologetics and/or the LDS Church.

Regards,
MG

MG 2.0 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:18 pm

yellowstone123 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:13 pm

Faith Matters got sucked in to the debate of John D’s a Faith Crisis. Faith Matters fell for it. It was never a Faith Crisis it was a God crisis. So Faith Matters should actually be called God Mattters. But the leaders of the church fell for it and took the bait. Now they have billions to pump into a website Faith Matters.

I am not seeing a connection between Faith Matters Foundation and the LDS Church. On another thread there has been no evidence of a connection.

Faith Matters seems to be independent of the church.

Really.

All who are involved with Faith Matters share a deep commitment to the restored gospel tradition, and a profound desire to see it thrive and remain vital and relevant to rising generations.
https://faithmatters.org/about/

So, "no connection" ???