Boylan’s latest podcast calculates gold plates were too heavy

[Tapir Rodeo]

I made it about 45 seconds in and nearly died of boredom. Boylan has to be the most uninspiring person to ever try his hand at poscasting. Even druming up fake drama with a much larger channel doesn't seem to have helped. After two years of running his podcast Boylan has 1200 subscribers. Mopologetics is dying a hilarious death thanks to stodgy people like Boylan.

The plates are just another one of many comical black eyes for the church. Smith clearly lied. The plates never existed.

He only has 52,000 total views on YouTube.

My channel (which only posts dumb videos making fun of Rusty Nelson) has 81,000.

Boylan’s subscribers don’t even watch.

He's averaging about 500 views per video lol. That's probably about the number of unique subs he has. The other 600 or so are probably sock accounts.

Check out his 1000+ sub celebration video. https://youtu.be/oSR8LaFW8TA?si=EJOmBCfc_IkGSrxj

I watched the first two minutes and it's some serious unintentional comedy. Not only do all the guests look like they might be a few great grandparents short of a normal family tree, but the vacant stares on all their faces as Boylan struggles to use the most basic YouTube features are hilarious. Then Boylan tells us that he challenged a protestant troll to come on and debate him, but then immediately admits that the guy he challenged might not even know Boylan challenged him. This is coming from Boylan who last week bailed on a debate as soon as he found out who his opponent would be.

It's nice to see that some things are consistent... the sun rising, the tides coming and going, Boylan being an unrepentant hypocrite...

Never change Bobby B.

[drumdude]

If the Book of Mormon plates were made of tumbaga, they were probably between 8 and 12 carat gold and thus would have weighed between 53 and 86 pounds.

https://mormonchallenges.org/2013/10/24 ... ld-plates/

Filming “Joseph Smith” with the plates, and running from and interacting with the attackers, took a considerable amount of time.

Knowing that filming the scene of Joseph running with the plates would require several hours, Paul Wuthrich was presented with the option of going with something lighter as a prop. He opted to use the two prop sets of plates that metallurgist Dave Baird had created, based on Baird’s careful research. Somewhat amusingly, one set came to be called the “non-hero set.” They weighed somewhere between thirty (30) and thirty-five (35) pounds. We’re more certain of the weight of the other set — unsurprisingly labeled the “hero set” — because Russell Richins weighed them himself. They came in at forty-five (45) pounds. In other words, well within the range of weights given by witnesses for the historical plates themselves.

Paul was in very similar circumstances that Joseph Smith faced except for this one exception – – Paul Wuthrich did it over and over and over again throughout the day. Yes, he was exhausted, but he did it. A whole crew witnessed it.”

In Witnesses, you have filmed proof that the claim that Joseph Smith could not have run with the plates is false.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 01621.html

Dan low-balled the plates and then claims victory.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 01621.html

Dan low-balled the plates and then claims victory.

The plates just keep getting lighter and lighter.

On another note, it's quite possible that the ban on loud laughter in the Church started right after Joseph started telling people the story about the Gold Plates and how he fought off numerous assailants while carrying them.

[TapirDangerDan]

DCP doesn’t realize there were two sets of plates.

D&C 9:1.

The first set were taken to Cumorah by the messenger who appeared to Joseph, Oliver, and David Whitmer, next to their wagon while traveling to Fayette from Harmony, as told by David Whitmer. David described him as an older gentleman. Joseph said he was one of the three Nephites.

Joseph told David to ask him if wanted a ride. “No, I’m going to Cumorah.”

This messenger later delivered the second set of plates to Fayette and showed the second set, the plates of Nephi, (D&C 9:1) to David Whitmer’s mother who stated he called himself, “Brother Nephi.”

This is why there are different accounts of the plates weighing differently. There were two sets. The eight witnesses who handled the plates never stated they were sealed and weighed lighter.

DCP and his goofy gang of Mopologists ignore this account in Church History because David Whimer located Cumorah in New York, not Mexico.

You know, Mesoamerican tapirs are horses and Moroni walked from Mexico to New York with the plates and after some 30 years he bumped into a loney hill in New York, which is RLDS nonsense, plagiarized by Sorenson, Welch, DCP, Magelby and Gardner, none of whom speak for The Church, but for themselves.

Then Joseph Smith didn’t need said plates or the U&T that Moroni carefully protected while traveling across the continent and carefully buried in a stone box with cement to keep out moisture. But used a rock in a hat. This is how dopey the Mopologists are!! They can’t keep their stories straight.

DCP then used David Whitmer’s “opinion” in his goofy “Witnesses” movie, that Joseph Smith used a rock in a hat to translate the Gold Plates. But David Whitmer never observed the translation. It was done upstairs in the Whitmer home in Fayette, out of view. The Angel Moroni had commanded Joseph to never show the plates and the Urim and Thummim to anyone unless commanded.

Oliver Cowdery (and Joseph Smith) never stated they used a rock in a hat . Never!

But DCP doesn’t care if Oliver Cowdery was a Witness, and attempted to translate and was a better witness of the translation than his Brother-in-law.

David Whitner in his book “An Address to all believers in Christ,” maligned Joseph Smith as a fallen prophet, but only after he had translated the plates. That was due to plural marriage. Whitmer started his own Church refusing to join the RLDS because he knew Emma wasn’t truthful about Joseph and plural marriage.

David Whitmer likely embraced “rock in a hat” to deflect the “Mormonism Unvailed” [sic] criticism which claimed rock in a hat written earlier by an excommunicated member of the Church.

DCP is a lousy scholar. Why are you then relying on DCP and his movie?

DCP doesn’t represent The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. DCP represents his dopey tax-free 501(c)(3) “Interpreter Foundation.” Donate today so DCP gets tax-free dough!

Quit quoting those goofy Mopologists. They don’t represent the Church.

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Quit quoting those goofy Mopologists. They don’t represent the Church.

Find me a church endorsed apologist and I'll happily oblige. You and I both know the church loves having semi-unaffiliated apologists speak for them.

[Dr. Shades]

Yes Dr. Shades, Mark Schultz is a computer-generated character. How could he not be?

Look at his scalp, his teeth, his fangs, and his head movements, then tell me I'm wrong.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Yes Dr. Shades, Mark Schultz is a computer-generated character. How could he not be?

Look at his scalp, his teeth, his fangs, and his head movements, then tell me I'm wrong.

Dr. Shades, you might be correct. Holy cow! It does look very strange.

[Gadianton]

There were two sets

Tell me if I have this right: I can either believe in 2 Hills Cumorah and one set of plates or one Hill Cumorah and two sets of plates?

[canpakes]

The plates must have been copper base with 10 micron gold plating.

Well, I guess that this explains what happened to those Book of Mormon folks. They killed themselves off with mercury poisoning from having to fire gild all of those pages.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

If the Book of Mormon plates were made of tumbaga, they were probably between 8 and 12 carat gold and thus would have weighed between 53 and 86 pounds.

https://mormonchallenges.org/2013/10/24 ... ld-plates/

Filming “Joseph Smith” with the plates, and running from and interacting with the attackers, took a considerable amount of time.

Knowing that filming the scene of Joseph running with the plates would require several hours, Paul Wuthrich was presented with the option of going with something lighter as a prop. He opted to use the two prop sets of plates that metallurgist Dave Baird had created, based on Baird’s careful research. Somewhat amusingly, one set came to be called the “non-hero set.” They weighed somewhere between thirty (30) and thirty-five (35) pounds. We’re more certain of the weight of the other set — unsurprisingly labeled the “hero set” — because Russell Richins weighed them himself. They came in at forty-five (45) pounds. In other words, well within the range of weights given by witnesses for the historical plates themselves.

Paul was in very similar circumstances that Joseph Smith faced except for this one exception – – Paul Wuthrich did it over and over and over again throughout the day. Yes, he was exhausted, but he did it. A whole crew witnessed it.”

In Witnesses, you have filmed proof that the claim that Joseph Smith could not have run with the plates is false.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 01621.html

Dan low-balled the plates and then claims victory.

This is why it’s a waste of time to have good-faith conversations with Dr. Dorknpork. We’ve explained to him over and over again the sheer impossibility of the story as told. I even went as far as taking a 45 lbs kettle bell out to an outdoor workout area my unit has, that was literally in the woods, so it had a sandy-dirt lap ring around it, and tried running with it. It was impossible to run cradling it - I also wrapped it up in a towel to simulate Joseph Smith’s jacket, and had at it.

I was very, very fit - training for combat, running 5-6 miles a day, and engaging in everything from heavy-sled pushing to literal stone ball lifting (think strong man competitions). You get the point. I was friends with a variety a guys at the unit so I got some of them to meet me out there and asked them to warm up, and then run around the track with the swaddled kettle bell. Nobody made it one lap. A couple made it about 100M before they had to drop it. These were combat operators from a tier one unit and a couple of friends from a support squadron.

The story as told by Joseph Smith or related by his family is a lie.

- Doc