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DCP posting personal info of Cody Temple critics

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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... again.html


Not only names, but apparently home towns of the critics of the temple.
“DCP” wrote: [name removed], who continues to post on POCN, seems to run her anti-Mormon and anti-Muslim activities — and possibly anti-Bahai activities, as well — with her husband, [name removed], out of Prosser, Washington
“DCP” wrote: I’ll also mention [name redacted]. He is a lawyer here in the Phoenix area, apparently a formerly active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
I would be very concerned about having my personal information on Dan’s blog, given the violent rhetoric coming from many DezNat Mormons.

This seems to be a petty retaliatory move by Dan for being blocked from commenting on their Facebook group.

Imagine if Daniel had his hometown posted here? I have no idea where he lives, except that it is in Utah. No one here seems to care about Dan’s hometown, strangely enough.
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Just more disgusting behavior from DCP. I can't think of a more dishonest or angry person than DCP. I can't even imagine the personal demons that must haunt him.


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Here is the most recent post on the site:
Cody, WY residents working to preserve our neighborhoods in accordance with the Cody Master Plan.

9/5/2023 UPDATE:

For the following reasons and more, we appreciate the City of Cody’s decision to withhold the building permit for the LDS temple, and we have requested that they continue to do so to allow the District Court to decide the outcome:

-The LDS corporation has been forcing the temple into a Cody neighborhood by filing three separate lawsuits against the City of Cody (the 3rd lawsuit was filed last Friday), intimidating some of our citizens and P&Z board, and not following Cody's city codes.
-The Conditional Use Permit wasn't signed or filed by the applicant within the 15-day limit, in accordance with City Code.
-The LDS withdrew its Special Exemption application for height once it was apparent that it wouldn't pass.
-The LDS assumes a site plan (which doesn't address building height) allows them to build at any height.
It's plain and simple: LDS leadership should follow the law, listen to the majority of Cody residents, and move the temple to a properly zoned and permitted location in Cody or anywhere in Park County. A temple relocation would resolve most of the division in our community and create a path of healing.
#preserveourcodyneighborhoods
And here is Peterson's disingenuous take on the comments on the site:
There are more than a few participants at POCN who aren’t disingenuous at all, of course, whose derogatory, even nasty, comments about Latter-day Saint beliefs, history, and practices, and, yes, sometimes about Latter-day Saints as people, are overtly anti-Mormon. Some — not bothering with details about lighting or traffic or the height of the temple spire or the siting of the temple in a particular residential neighborhood — openly declare that the temple shouldn’t be permitted in Cody at all. One even announced that no temple should be allowed in the state of Wyoming.
He says "some," without reflecting the feel of the site. I didn't even bother looking for the comments-maybe there are a few, but Peterson doesn't have a reputation for honesty so there's no reason to even pay attention to his undocumented claims of slurs.

It seems I was correct, however, about the reason for his vindictiveness:
...Without any reason being given (though I can guess) and without any announcement, I was blocked from POCN at least two or three weeks ago. That’s their prerogative, of course, as long as they don’t pretend that they don’t do such things, or that POCN constitutes a representative sample of public opinion. I have plenty of things to do. Moreover, I have a platform here, and I’ve used it:...
At least that's a straightforward whine.
['who cares if you don't want me--I didn't want to be here anyway!' --Peewee Peterson]

But this...
...I would like to know what it is about my “blog post” — as indicated above, I’ve actually written eight of them prior to today– that is “pretty awful.” I’m genuinely curious. I’ve taken, I think, a pretty moderate and reasonable position on the Cody matter, and would like to know where, if anywhere, I’ve gone wrong on it...
Seriously? I didn't think his knowledge of manners was that limited. His manners? Yes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:19 pm
Just more disgusting behavior from DCP. I can't think of a more dishonest or angry person than DCP. I can't even imagine the personal demons that must haunt him...
Wow, Everybody Wang Chung! Peterson follows this board like a hawk. Here's a new p.s.
P.S. There is massive indignation and no little theatricality over at the Peterson Obsession Board regarding my mention of Peggy Brown and Richard Lyons above. One POB poster admits that he knows nobody who is more dishonest and angry than I am, and expresses astonishment at the personal demons that torment me.
Oh, and here's Peterson's excuse for why he doxxes people---because he can!!
Well, let me explain how I identified the shy, retiring, and very private Peggy Brown. First, she posts under her own name. And she continually posts photographs of her picketing activity outside of various Latter-day Saint temples. So I Googled her, and I found that she and her husband have been the focus of a number of newspaper articles and even, evidently, legal actions. Her hometown was identified in at least one of the newspaper headlines about their anti-Mormon and anti-Muslim ventures.

But how did I track Richard Lyons down? I’m a real sleuth but, for my closest friends, I’m willing to disclose my fiendishly cunning methods. I clicked on his name as it appears on the Preserve Our Cody Neighborhoods Facebook page. Up came not only his profession, but the name of his law firm (which I didn’t share), where he earned his degrees (which I didn’t share), his high school (which I didn’t share), where he lives (which I didn’t share), and where he’s originally from (which I didn’t share). Altogether, it probably required about five seconds. His having once been an active Latter-day Saint and the rest I derived from his own self-description on POCN.
There you go. Integrity writ large. Well, the lack thereof.
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The truly hilarious thing is to watch the video DCP links to, that shows the temple is on the edge of town and really not the eyesore one would imagine based on the dramatic opposition to it.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://youtu.be/kuaZhSfHqXI?si=prHdvYuCS-KaTBbY
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Marcus wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:04 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:19 pm
Just more disgusting behavior from DCP. I can't think of a more dishonest or angry person than DCP. I can't even imagine the personal demons that must haunt him...
Wow, Everybody Wang Chung! Peterson follows this board like a hawk. Here's a new p.s.
P.S. There is massive indignation and no little theatricality over at the Peterson Obsession Board regarding my mention of Peggy Brown and Richard Lyons above. One POB poster admits that he knows nobody who is more dishonest and angry than I am, and expresses astonishment at the personal demons that torment me.
Oh, and here's Peterson's excuse for why he doxxes people---because he can!!
Well, let me explain how I identified the shy, retiring, and very private Peggy Brown. First, she posts under her own name. And she continually posts photographs of her picketing activity outside of various Latter-day Saint temples. So I Googled her, and I found that she and her husband have been the focus of a number of newspaper articles and even, evidently, legal actions. Her hometown was identified in at least one of the newspaper headlines about their anti-Mormon and anti-Muslim ventures.

But how did I track Richard Lyons down? I’m a real sleuth but, for my closest friends, I’m willing to disclose my fiendishly cunning methods. I clicked on his name as it appears on the Preserve Our Cody Neighborhoods Facebook page. Up came not only his profession, but the name of his law firm (which I didn’t share), where he earned his degrees (which I didn’t share), his high school (which I didn’t share), where he lives (which I didn’t share), and where he’s originally from (which I didn’t share). Altogether, it probably required about five seconds. His having once been an active Latter-day Saint and the rest I derived from his own self-description on POCN.
There you go. Integrity writ large. Well, the lack thereof.
Well since it’s public, I guess anyone can look up and post Daniel’s hometown as well:

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprof ... 03624/full
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On a more serious note, does Peterson really think he is helping his church by bullying a Facebook group like this? Regardless of what the LDS legal teams have planned, you can't imagine the PR people doing anything but wincing, while silently praying for Peterson to stop 'helping.'
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First, let me state this up front, I think Cody looks like the Devil’s anus. So, the kvetching is just theater. Cody, WY WalMart at night:

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That said, if the cult would’ve just made their temple reflect a sort of western art deco aesthetic, then few people would’ve bitched. You know, add some art deco friezes of pioneers or god, and blam. Beautiful.

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But of course they “F” that up because Mormons are descendants of “F” ups and they have they grace of a water buffalo.

Tone down the lights, make the building reflect the Old West or early 20th century heritage and it’s a win-win.

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Im actually looking forward to a Mormon temple in every small town.

It can become as much of a fixture of small town Americana as Dollar General.
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This is classic Mopologetics and vintage DCP: it has nothing to do with actual issues or politics, and instead it’s about punishing people personally. Think about it: what’s the end goal here? To get the temple built? To persuade the people of Cody that the temple is okay and won’t be an eyesore? Is it to discuss the vagaries of the Cody zoning laws, or to explain the LDS history of oppression so that folks might understand some of the embittered reactions to all of this?

No: instead it’s about targeting a couple of individuals in the hopes of….what, embarrassing them? Mocking them or making them look stupid? Hoping that part of the more unhinged readership of SeN will start a campaign of harassment?

I think Marcus was right to highlight DCP’s comment about getting banned, since it strongly suggests that his current actions are motivated by revenge and vindictiveness. It’s not about “issues” or “ideas” or “defending the Church.” It’s about trying to exact revenge.
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