Gemli is back? Or maybe just for an anniversary comment.

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Physics Guy wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:42 pm
Religion builds hospitals. Science builds atomic bombs.
On the other other hand, science does enable all of those nifty life-saving medicines and devices that have replaced things like bird blood wood chip soup, for curing things like leprosy.
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canpakes wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:58 pm
Physics Guy wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:42 pm
Religion builds hospitals. Science builds atomic bombs.
On the other other hand, science does enable all of those nifty life-saving medicines and devices that have replaced things like bird blood wood chip soup, for curing things like leprosy.
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Marcus wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:37 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:25 pm
not bad. Had someone at SeN came up with that and responded within a couple minutes to Gemli it would have been a good comeback.
Agreed. But maybe no one wanted to open the door for the response:
"except for the Mormon Religion, which builds no hospitals..."
Well... I mean...... they buy land, isn't that close? :D
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:21 pm
Marcus wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:37 pm
Agreed. But maybe no one wanted to open the door for the response:
"except for the Mormon Religion, which builds no hospitals..."
Well... I mean...... they buy land, isn't that close? :D
I suppose you could consider that the land has pre-existant hospitals that are just waiting their mortal birth.
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Gadianton wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:03 am
Wyatt only proves Gemli's profound point.

It was religion that radicalized the pilots of the planes that flew into the buildings. One could argue the leaders who orchestrated the attacks were political zealots or not good representatives of their faith -- whatever it is the case doesn't matter, they could have been atheists, but the point is the tool of religion and its promises of an afterlife -- a near daily theme on SeN -- was what got the foot soldiers onto the planes. What would the commenters on this blog do to secure everlasting life? They've covenanted to do anything the prophet has commanded. They can say all they want that the prophet hasn't commanded anything like murder and that he never would, but if he did, then what? What I was taught at BYU by my Book of Mormon teacher, who had a Phd in theology from Harvard, was that if the prophet commands you to kill somebody then do it and you'll be blessed for it, even if the prophet was wrong. We are taught as Mormons that obedience is the first law of heaven, and to prepare ourselves for that day when the prophet tells us to "get on that plane" so to speak. My Book of Mormon teacher, of course, didn't think such a thing would ever happen but then, Abraham didn't think he'd ever be asked to slay his son, and we're taught repeatedly that we're tested in the refiners fire by "curve ball" commandments that we must comply with entirely on faith because they otherwise make no sense. Abraham was stopped at the last minute, but Nephi followed through with his killing of Laban. You don't know which way it will go down, and must be prepared for either outcome.
Very well said, Dr. Robbers. There is a reason why Mopologetics has a core of violence, and I think you’ve summed it up nicely here. The Mopologists have always acted like they’ve been given a mandate to carry out their despicable behavior: “No uncontested slam-dunks.” But people with sociopathic inclinations seem to be drawn to Mopologetics, hence the enthusiastic participation of Ideeho, Hoosier, and The Last Danite at “SeN.” Yes: it’s about doing the prophets’ bidding; but there isn’t the same kind of hesitation you find in the Abraham story. I doubt that Midgley would have breathed a sigh of relief if the Holy Ghost had told him to quit stalking Gina Colvin.

Meanwhile, I also LOL’ed at DCP saying that he heard a “still, small voice” telling him to move forward with METI. This is a project that he’d later abandon because he couldn’t get along with his coworkers, and, I’ve been told, because he was derelict in his duties due to being in a depressive tailspin after resigning as Editor of the FARMS Review.
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