DCP doubts the church has even 50 billion dollars

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Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:48 pm
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Exactly. Consider what we just learned from drumdude's other recent post. The stockpiling of billions is not in character with the church he is accustomed to so the allegations must be anti-Mormon lies. No further reading required.
There is a real credibility problem that haunts those who accept no critique as legitimate. Effectively, the LDS Church acknowledges no outside or internal criticism as having any legitimate basis. That is the reason why people do not trust them. Only the most loyal internal supporters, and I would say loyal to a fault, could refuse to see some legitimate cause for concern here.
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People like DCP have a financial stake in trying to keep the charade going that the 'church' is true. His paychecks, benefits and pension all rely on it so why wouldn't he try and make it work by being intellectually dishonest?
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If Peterson doubts something negative about Mormonism, it's more than double true. So if he is questioning 50 billion, there is at the very least 100 billion dollars in the Mormon coffers. His entire schtick fools no one but those who pretend the Holy Ghost inspires them...
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:32 pm
If Peterson doubts something negative about Mormonism, it's more than double true. So if he is questioning 50 billion, there is at the very least 100 billion dollars in the Mormon coffers. His entire schtick fools no one but those who pretend the Holy Ghost inspires them...
The absolute dollar amount is immaterial. The problem is the church tried to hide it through criminal fraud. Lest members make an informed decision to tithe knowing the full amount of reserve funds.

Why is Jesus Christ’s church afraid to open their ledger books?
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drumdude wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:35 pm
Philo Sofee wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:32 pm
If Peterson doubts something negative about Mormonism, it's more than double true. So if he is questioning 50 billion, there is at the very least 100 billion dollars in the Mormon coffers. His entire schtick fools no one but those who pretend the Holy Ghost inspires them...
The absolute dollar amount is immaterial. The problem is the church tried to hide it through criminal fraud. Lest members make an informed decision to tithe knowing the full amount of reserve funds.

Why is Jesus Christ’s church afraid to open their ledger books?
Exactly. It is the dollar amount that has caused the church to become a most heinous dishonest hack of a religion, yet it immorally continues to try and convince people its garments are white as snow and they are of celestial calibre. Those times are over, the shadow of Sauron has overcome Mormonism, it is corrupt through and through. It has apostatized from honesty.
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:38 pm
drumdude wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:35 pm
The absolute dollar amount is immaterial. The problem is the church tried to hide it through criminal fraud. Lest members make an informed decision to tithe knowing the full amount of reserve funds.

Why is Jesus Christ’s church afraid to open their ledger books?
Exactly. It is the dollar amount that has caused the church to become a most heinous dishonest hack of a religion, yet it immorally continues to try and convince people its garments are white as snow and they are of celestial calibre. Those times are over, the shadow of Sauron has overcome Mormonism, it is corrupt through and through. It has apostatized from honesty.
Boy, ain't that the truth, AND, in my opinion, if you're still participating in this fraud you really, really need to take a long, hard look in the mirror.

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This does have the feel that Trumpian rhetoric, denying the truth, has seeped into LDS apologetics. DCP knows that you can fool some of the people all of the time.
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“DCP” wrote: As for me, my faith in both the Church and its mission and in the goodness and sincerity of its leaders is such that, to be honest, I can't really generate much personal interest in this topic -- let alone indignation.
It’s a very head-in-the-sand way to live one’s life.

But who knows. Maybe Daniel will be eternally blessed with genitalia in the highest level of heaven while the rest of us lose ours. With faith, anything is possible, and any wrongdoing is permissible as long as it comes from those with religious authority.
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:31 am
“DCP” wrote: As for me, my faith in both the Church and its mission and in the goodness and sincerity of its leaders is such that, to be honest, I can't really generate much personal interest in this topic -- let alone indignation.
It’s a very head-in-the-sand way to live one’s life.

But who knows. Maybe Daniel will be eternally blessed with genitalia in the highest level of heaven while the rest of us lose ours. With faith, anything is possible, and any wrongdoing is permissible as long as it comes from those with religious authority.
Given the amount of time and effort he's invested into defending the Church's financial position, his "I'm not personally interested" claim echos like the vacuous sidestep that it is. He really means he knows he can't defend it and so is exiting the field of play, whilst trying to claim he's no longer interested in the game. Pathetic.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:34 am
drumdude wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:31 am
It’s a very head-in-the-sand way to live one’s life.

But who knows. Maybe Daniel will be eternally blessed with genitalia in the highest level of heaven while the rest of us lose ours. With faith, anything is possible, and any wrongdoing is permissible as long as it comes from those with religious authority.
Given the amount of time and effort he's invested into defending the Church's financial position, his "I'm not personally interested" claim echos like the vacuous sidestep that it is. He really means he knows he can't defend it and so is exiting the field of play, whilst trying to claim he's no longer interested in the game. Pathetic.
Exactly as I see it as well. Like I've said, you read him enough, and his schtick is so well worn it has ceased to convince. He isn't in it for truth at all, but all image. It's why endorses all the wrong charities, no surprise. And then he excuses the child abusing sexual predator ones as almost. merely harmless! Positively heinous. I wonder if he would be so suave and nonchalant if his own kids were being diddled by church leaders and supported by the church. It wouldn't surprise me if he was he is so church broke. "Oh it's not an issue I care all that much about, so I will ignore it." That just falls so flat.
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