The Rosebud MEGATHREAD

[Doctor Steuss]

Notice how every time something happens she uses it as a springboard to talk about something completely unrelated…

And how in that unrelated thing, she is always both hero and victim.

NPD gonna NPD.

[Rosebud]

You know, a lot of employers are perfectly capable of treating their employees fairly and reasonably.

And a lot of businesses don’t need to exploit anyone to bring in profit.

Fair competition would mean holding organizations accountable when they don’t treat their employees and investors (franchisees, tithe payers, donors) ethically.

But in the United States, money rules all. Protecting competition in the United States means protecting organizations’ abilities to exploit human capital.

Our country isn’t about fair competition about all. It’s about allowing for exploitation to ensure we stay at the top of the economic world.

And Utah adds its gender spin to the equation, of course, allowing for its own unique forms of exploitation that have their roots in the different sexual practices of our 19th-century foremothers and fathers. Only meeting the minimum federal statutes for offenses like sexual harassment, for example, and not holding accountable any small businesses with fewer than 15 employees.

The most effective way to aggress is from a place of power… when the laws are written for you and for the purpose of protecting your organizations from accountability…. all so that the $$$$$ can continue to change hands.

And stay in the “right” hands.

Not so exploitation doesn’t happen, or so employers or franchisors can’t successfully aggress against their own employees and franchisees.

[Rosebud]

But the best businesses are those that don’t need to exploit or aggress against their own employees and investors (franchisees, tithe payers, donors) to be successful.

But they’ve got to at least have a product with selling, and then, hopefully, have an ethical leadership team that realizes that businesses will get further by following standards regarding employees and investors than they will by using the court system (that’s built in the businesses’ favor) to attack individuals who, in better circumstances, would have supported them.

And honestly, is anything remotely related to Mormonism really worth selling?

And is it all that surprising that Mormon nepotism and all the pretending that God doesn’t respect reasonable retirement ages means we can’t expect the best from leaders in Mormon Utah?

With scant real product and less-than-ideal leadership, Mormonism and Mormon adjacent companies (including 501c3s) have to be overly aggressive to “thrive” at the top.

Of course the Corporation of the President needed to turn its nothing into real estate. But they weren’t able to pull that magic trick off by being ethical or treating individuals fairly.

Utah is a prime legal environment for aggressive exploitation.

[Rosebud]

Notice how every time something happens she uses it as a springboard to talk about something completely unrelated…

And how in that unrelated thing, she is always both hero and victim.

NPD gonna NPD.

Haha….. you are of course right. I’ve learned to take the ridiculous amounts of shame my culture of birth threw at me and find strong narratives of my own creation that I know more accurately describe my life experience as a woman growing up in Mormonism.

Did you know that in order for a woman to get a Mormon sealing cancellation, she has to confess all her “sins” since the date of her marriage in writing directly to the first presidency, even if she went through the traditional repentance process for them? Yet nobody in power wants to talk about all the ways the women were exploited, beginning as young girls, to get them into the bad Mormon marriages in the first place?

Another possibility is that some women are finally figuring out that our narratives of being victims in Mormonism are accurate because we actually are victims in Mormonism. (Imagine that.)

And franchisees are actually victims too. Wow… what I learned. I hope my friend and her team are still making the documentary.

What’s sadly hilarious, in my opinion, is pretending one is a victim-hero getting fair gamed by the Mormon church in order to get attention from Leah Remini when in actuality, one has been exploiting a system and one’s own employees and investors to make money.

Omg…. what a victim-hero narrative of narratives.

[Doctor Steuss]

And how in that unrelated thing, she is always both hero and victim.

NPD gonna NPD.

Haha….. you are of course right. I’ve learned to take the ridiculous amounts of shame my culture of birth threw at me [...]

I can definitely relate to having to find ways to cope with it. I tried to take my life after reading "Miracle of Forgiveness" and spent a 4th of my senior year of high school in a mental health facility.

Fortunately, years (and years) of professional counseling have helped me find healthy and grounded ways to cope, heal, and move forward with my life. It is my sincere hope that someday you will be able to take that step yourself.

[consiglieri]

For the record, I have completed recording a lengthy episode about yesterday‘s ruling in the bankruptcy court, where the bankruptcy judge did indeed deny the trustee’s motion to dismiss the case or transfer it to Utah.

I will be working to edit that podcast this afternoon and it should be premiering tomorrow evening. If you want to hear all the juicy details, you’ll have to tune in!

[drumdude]

And how in that unrelated thing, she is always both hero and victim.

NPD gonna NPD.

Haha….. you are of course right. I’ve learned to take the ridiculous amounts of shame my culture of birth threw at me and find strong narratives of my own creation that I know more accurately describe my life experience as a woman growing up in Mormonism.

Did you know that in order for a woman to get a Mormon sealing cancellation, she has to confess all her “sins” since the date of her marriage in writing directly to the first presidency, even if she went through the traditional repentance process for them? Yet nobody in power wants to talk about all the ways the women were exploited, beginning as young girls, to get them into the bad Mormon marriages in the first place?

Another possibility is that some women are finally figuring out that our narratives of being victims in Mormonism are accurate because we actually are victims in Mormonism. (Imagine that.)

And franchisees are actually victims too. Wow… what I learned. I hope my friend and her team are still making the documentary.

What’s sadly hilarious, in my opinion, is pretending one is a victim-hero getting fair gamed by the Mormon church in order to get attention from Leah Remini when in actuality, one has been exploiting a system and one’s own employees and investors to make money.

Omg…. what a victim-hero narrative of narratives.

And none of that has anything to do with John Dehlin.

He just got unlucky to cross paths with at least two professional victims. Kind of like those people who intentionally hit your car for an insurance payout.

[Moksha]

For the record, I have completed recording a lengthy episode about yesterday‘s ruling in the bankruptcy court, where the bankruptcy judge did indeed deny the trustee’s motion to dismiss the case or transfer it to Utah.

I will be working to edit that podcast this afternoon and it should be premiering tomorrow evening. If you want to hear all the juicy details, you’ll have to tune in!

Perhaps Washington wishes to corner the no-questions-asked bankruptcy market in the same way that Nevada has cornered divorces and Utah has cornered concealed carry permits.

[msnobody]

I’m beginning to think DM is an enabler of Rosebud.

[Dr. Shades]

I’m beginning to think DM is an enabler of Rosebud.

Nobody has a gun to her head.