What Percentage Of TBMs Have Actually Read The Entire Book of Mormon?

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What Percentage Of TBMs Have Actually Read The Entire Book of Mormon?

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Well, according to this article only about 1.5% of Mormons have actually read the entire Book of Mormon. The 1.5% figure seems a little low to me. If I had to guess, based on my personal experience, I would say about 3-5% of Mormons have actually read the entire Book of Mormon.

Not a great endorsement for the keystone of our faith and the most correct book on Earth. It makes me wonder how serious Mormons are about their religion if only 1.5% of them can be bothered to read the entire Book of Mormon.
How Many Mormons Have Actually Read the Book of Mormon?
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Starting on a humorous note, an old friend in Idaho cheekily said, "If you were to take all the Mormons who have fallen asleep reading the Book of Mormon and lay them down, head to toe — they'd be more comfortable." Another saying I grew up with suggested that many a true word was said in jest. Mark Twain wrote, "All men have heard of the Mormon Bible, but few except the "elect" have seen it, or, at least, taken the trouble to read it. I brought away a copy from Salt Lake. The book is a curiosity to me, it is such a pretentious affair, and yet so "slow," so sleepy; such an insipid mess of inspiration. It is chloroform in print (my emphasis). If Joseph Smith composed this book, the act was a miracle — keeping awake while he did it was, at any rate."

Mr. Twain further described the Book of Mormon after reading it, "The book seems to be merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New Testament. The author labored to give his words and phrases the quaint, old-fashioned sound and structure of our King James's translation of the Scriptures (sic); and the result is a mongrel — half modern glibness, and half ancient simplicity and gravity. The latter is awkward and constrained; the former natural, but grotesque by the contrast. Whenever he found his speech growing too modern — which was about every sentence or two — he ladled in a few such Scriptural phrases as "exceeding sore," "and it came to pass," etc., and made things satisfactory again. "And it came to pass" was his pet. If he had left that out, his Bible would have been only a pamphlet."

Nevertheless, for many believers, the existence of the Book of Mormon matters much more than what is inside it. Just as with the Jewish Torah, the physical presence is as essential as the contents. After all, the Book of Mormon was an American divine discovery! A very American idea, we are unique and chosen, and we have a book to prove it! Well, so they say.

Interestingly though, since the 1980s, the Mormon prophets have continuously and heavily urged their members to read and study the Book of Mormon. International, regional, and local pressure or "encouragement" was, and is, necessary as not every member willingly reads the "sacred" scripture and certainly doesn't read it conscientiously or in whole. But if that's the case, then the Pew Research Center team seems to contradict me. Why is that?

As you can see in the chart below, Mormons came out top of all faiths for the frequency of reading scripture at 77%. How can that be? Let me explain using my 35-year LDS church membership and personal experiences in church leadership positions in England and the USA (Utah and Arizona).


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Approximation methods in Math "mean using analytical procedures for developing solutions in the form of functions that are close, in some sense, to the exact, but usually unknown, solution of the nonlinear problem." (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9208625667)

So, here we go. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or the Mormons, has 16.8 million members as of 2022, at least on paper. However, many people have never attended or stopped attending church many years ago. However, if we take the 16.8 million number and divide it by 30%, which is the average church attendance or active membership, we see 5 million. From that 5 million number, we further divide it by 20% to identify the number of average current Temple Recommend holders, the goal of dedicated Mormons; we then see 1 million. The attendance average of those still attending the Mormon temple regularly is about 50%, giving us the figure of 500,000. Of that number, experience tells me that 50% read and study the Book of Mormon religiously and seriously from beginning to end, and not selectively. For those not familiar with Mormon practices, it should be noted that scripture reading, if done at all, is mainly selected portions as chosen by self or church manuals, which do likewise. And so, we are left with 250,000 members, or 1.5%, who may be deemed extremely serious about reading the Book of Mormon.

If this approximate figure is even close to my experience over many years, the actual figure is more like 1.5%. Although the Pew Research Center may have a figure of 77% of Mormons leading all faiths in the "frequency" of reading scripture, the reality is far different. Frequent, maybe, but studying the whole book, not so. Of course, this exercise has many holes, but the point is to illustrate how generalized terms and surveys can suggest outrageously incorrect and misleading numbers. As with most data and information from the Mormon church, white-washed public relations are vastly different from reality. Mormons may cite that 192 million copies of The Book of Mormon have been published, and somebody must be reading them. Very true, but just like Temple Square in Salt Lake City, both are for church members' use.

As the Mormon population of the world is 0.2%, as of 2022, and at least half of them are not active members, only 0.1% of the world's population can be designated as active church members. 1.5% of earnest Mormon readers from a 0.1% active membership of the world population suggests that after almost 200 years, the Book of Mormon has not, in reality, flooded the earth as expressed by many a Mormon prophet.

And then, understanding what you are reading is a whole different question, but that's for another article.
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Our very own Moksha once wrote a very frank and honest review of the Book of Mormon:

"Way too much sex and violence for me. Certainly not life changing or anything. The plot was a complete mess to follow and the editing was horrendous. The characters were painfully one-dimensional and this Jesus guy delivered some of the worst dialogue I've ever read. All in all I found it too long and it took itself way too seriously.

Perhaps the reason I hated this book is less because it sucked and more because my pretentious neighbor, Louis Midgley told me that I could not understand friendship or be his friend unless I read the Book of Mormon. Yes, Louis Midgley assigned me homework. Needless to say, Louis Midgley and I are not friends (I blame DCP)." -- Moksha
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There’s an effect in music where you can take the most horrendously foul and distasteful song, listen to it over and over and over and over, and slowly you start to discover interesting patterns. You start to impose your own meaning on it. And your brain starts to even enjoy listening to it.

The Book of Mormon is the literary equivalent of that to folks like DCP. A very mediocre song that they have heard so many times that they have convinced themselves it’s a masterpiece.
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For heavens sake even I read the book through once upon a time. Well hold it, it was long ago and something not repeated. Perhaps my memory fudges and I did not really go through all of it. I cannot prove or be absolutely sure.

Sure lots of people on the records who do not go to church probably do not read the Book of Mormon. But it is clear this 1.5 percent is a rough guess only.

I have been surprised by how many on message board in the past claim to have read the book multiple times. I understand the church has campaigned to encourage every body to read it.

But Twain's warning about tedium is not all wrong.
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:45 am
There’s an effect in music where you can take the most horrendously foul and distasteful song, listen to it over and over and over and over, and slowly you start to discover interesting patterns. You start to impose your own meaning on it. And your brain starts to even enjoy listening to it.

The Book of Mormon is the literary equivalent of that to folks like DCP. A very mediocre song that they have heard so many times that they have convinced themselves it’s a masterpiece.
drumdude, a colorful suggestion you have here. Have you actually experienced such a thing? Horrendously foul and distasteful song. Ok you stirred my curiosity. What sort of song would qualify here?

I nominate Iron Man, Black Sabbath. back in the day I listened to radio music some and that would come on. I have not tried to listen to it over and over to discover if it improves.
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I kind of barely nudge the needle on the stats. I read it once a month every month on my mission. I had read it once before totally in Seminary, so that's 25 times. And probably realistically another 5 or so times as an apologist. If memory serves me correctly (and it probably doesn't), I read it through cover to cover about 30 times... I used to say something like 60 times when I was an apologist, but the realism bone in me grew and I now believe I was dramatically over-inflating it for ego sake and ululation from my peers. Shame on me, but I have repented since then and have not read it all the way through now for a few decades.
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huckelberry wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:22 am
drumdude wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:45 am
There’s an effect in music where you can take the most horrendously foul and distasteful song, listen to it over and over and over and over, and slowly you start to discover interesting patterns. You start to impose your own meaning on it. And your brain starts to even enjoy listening to it.

The Book of Mormon is the literary equivalent of that to folks like DCP. A very mediocre song that they have heard so many times that they have convinced themselves it’s a masterpiece.
drumdude, a colorful suggestion you have here. Have you actually experienced such a thing? Horrendously foul and distasteful song. Ok you stirred my curiosity. What sort of song would qualify here?

I nominate Iron Man, Black Sabbath. back in the day I listened to radio music some and that would come on. I have not tried to listen to it over and over to discover if it improves.
It’s all subjective of course, but a lot of contemporary classical music falls into this category for me. The kind that eschews conventional melody, harmony, and/or rhythm. Abstract art kind of music.

You can find it utterly repulsive on the first listening, and then slowly over time find things to latch on to for each subsequent one.

I found the Book of Mormon pretty repulsive on my first reading too. But if you take isolated passages on their own and forget the sum total of the book it can be bearable.
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:49 am
huckelberry wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:22 am
drumdude, a colorful suggestion you have here. Have you actually experienced such a thing? Horrendously foul and distasteful song. Ok you stirred my curiosity. What sort of song would qualify here?

I nominate Iron Man, Black Sabbath. back in the day I listened to radio music some and that would come on. I have not tried to listen to it over and over to discover if it improves.
It’s all subjective of course, but a lot of contemporary classical music falls into this category for me. The kind that eschews conventional melody, harmony, and/or rhythm. Abstract art kind of music.

You can find it utterly repulsive on the first listening, and then slowly over time find things to latch on to for each subsequent one.

I found the Book of Mormon pretty repulsive on my first reading too. But if you take isolated passages on their own and forget the sum total of the book it can be bearable.
Especially if you stop after the first verse.... :D
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huckelberry wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:22 am
drumdude wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:45 am
There’s an effect in music where you can take the most horrendously foul and distasteful song, listen to it over and over and over and over, and slowly you start to discover interesting patterns. You start to impose your own meaning on it. And your brain starts to even enjoy listening to it.

The Book of Mormon is the literary equivalent of that to folks like DCP. A very mediocre song that they have heard so many times that they have convinced themselves it’s a masterpiece.
drumdude, a colorful suggestion you have here. Have you actually experienced such a thing? Horrendously foul and distasteful song. Ok you stirred my curiosity. What sort of song would qualify here?

I nominate Iron Man, Black Sabbath. back in the day I listened to radio music some and that would come on. I have not tried to listen to it over and over to discover if it improves.
Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart. It's currently ranked at number 60 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time list, and appears on the "best of" lists of most other music publications. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... rt-848521/

I absolutely hated every song on this album. Listening to it was pure torture. I guarantee if you listen to any of the songs for the first time, you will hate it so much you can't make yourself listen to the whole thing.

However, after being stuck in a car for 10 hours with a roommate driving to California who played this CD over and over, it finally started to grow on me. Now, I think it's brilliant, but I would never recommend it to anyone unless they were going to listen to the entire album about 10 times.

Here is the entire album if you are a glutton for punishment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF0g-2SeoMM

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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or the Mormons, has 16.8 million members as of 2022, at least on paper. However, many people have never attended or stopped attending church many years ago. However, if we take the 16.8 million number and divide it by 30%, which is the average church attendance or active membership, we see 5 million. From that 5 million number, we further divide it by 20% to identify the number of average current Temple Recommend holders, the goal of dedicated Mormons; we then see 1 million. The attendance average of those still attending the Mormon temple regularly is about 50%, giving us the figure of 500,000. Of that number, experience tells me that 50% read and study the Book of Mormon religiously and seriously from beginning to end, and not selectively. For those not familiar with Mormon practices, it should be noted that scripture reading, if done at all, is mainly selected portions as chosen by self or church manuals, which do likewise. And so, we are left with 250,000 members, or 1.5%, who may be deemed extremely serious about reading the Book of Mormon.
This methodology is incredibly flawed. Plenty of inactive members may have read the book all the way through prior to going inactive (I myself am living proof), plus people without current temple recommends can read it all the way through just as easily as people with recommends.
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huckelberry wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:22 am
Horrendously foul and distasteful song. Ok you stirred my curiosity. What sort of song would qualify here?
The worst piece of music I've ever heard is this. (If it doesn't seem that bad to start with, wait about 40 seconds.) If I ever start to like it, shoot me.
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